Lockdown and mental health

Yeah you could or everybody could stop reading social media for their misinformation and conspiracy theories, do as they're told, stay home, wear a mask and stop finding loopholes for excuses to act like petulant children and then the virus wouldn't be spreading through NSW being carried by people who think that the rules don't apply to them..

I don't like wearing a mask, or staying at home (for reasons outlined at the start of this) but I do it when asked because I can see that in places where the population (largely) complies, the lockdowns are significantly shorter.

Take the Byron Bay lockdown as the perfect example of finding any loophole to be an arrogant dickhead.  Drove from Sydney to Byron Bay to "view property".  Even if it was allowed, common sense should have suggested that its not a intelligent choice of activity during a lockdown situation.  

You also might need to be looking a little bit further than the end of your nose.  Every country that started opening up is now experiencing an upturn in cases and deaths and many are starting to reimpose restrictions.   Is that what you want?  or don't you care?

Personally I think NSW is already totally and completely screwed and its going to take a months return to "normal".  Victoria is teetering on the edge and can still go either way.  Christmas is not going to be a happy time for a large percentage of the population.

I think you need to take a step back and look at the massive wins that NSW is now having.

If you had no cases, you'd be way down on the vaccinations compared to what you are now having.

For example.  On current Vaccination rates (double doses) NSW will hit 

70% in 82 days
80% in 99 days (A full month earlier than Victoria)

Whereas Vic will hit
70% in 99 days
80% in 120 days

This is amazing for NSW and you will be open and enjoying freedom way before a locked down Victoria and god help WA.  

Think about them.  They are more f*cked than all other states in Australia. McClown refuses to accept any cases.
Whats he going to do once they hit 80% (Current tracking says 120 Days) vaccinated and then they get a case?  He will probably do a hard lockdown like Liverpool and Melbourne are currently in.

The Data all says you in NSW will be enjoying a family XMAS.

Even worse than all of Australia is New Zealand. They will be locked down for at least another 12 months.

Currently they ave 800,000 fully vaccinated. Pop is 5 million.

NSW will only get freedom when (and only when) the number of days people are contagious in the community is zero.  

I still think that vaccination is not the "Get out of jail free" card that so many people are expecting.  I hope I'm wrong but theres nothing in the data that I've seen (either here or OS) to support that theory.

Eligible which is about 80% of population

What do you consider freedom?

I consider it as kids at schools. 
50% in offices 
able to get into a swimming pool or gym
bars

we won’t be back to 2018 times for 4 years probably. 

but you will be spending Xmas at a family members house by Xmas. In nsw. 

Your description of freedom is also a description of WA. McGowen is doing the right thing in imposing hard lockdowns until 70%+ of the WA population are vaccinated.

Time will tell if WA reaches 70% much later than NSW and Vic.

You are so in correct, at 70% you would expect to be open up as it’s only the unvaccinated who have chosen to be unvaccinated and the minority should not be telling the majority what to do.

If McGowan choose to lockdown at 70% you watch the backlash. It won’t be pretty I can assure you of that

This is a hard board to quite but

Dropbear said...

And the OS real world data suggests that 70% vaccination is nowhere near enough vaccinations to be opening up. Most of those countries that did so are now struggling with increasing case

I say....

Countries with high vaccination have far lower hospitalisations per case and deaths are way down.

From what I've seen, Australia loses its minds about cases as opposed to the severity of outbreaks. ACT locked down after one case? Seriously?

To put it into perspective, a country that went from 30% vaccinate to 75% vaccinated went from 0.01 cases per test to 0.0025 cases per test. Now, that country has a very regimented, compulsory testing regimen. Australia only tests if you were at Bunnings last Wednesday.

Again. Good luck y'all.

So with 390+ new cases announced today,and ( from The Age ):
"Almost 400 people are now in hospital with COVID-19, with 63 cases in intensive care and 30 of these people requiring ventilation. Of the 63 in ICU, ten are aged under 40."
I'll stick with my prediction of a 1000+ cases leading into Xmas.
Must admit I do feel a bit sorry for Gladys considering what she has to cater to. When Victorians go into lockdown they are generally (95+% ) compliant. In NSW there is definitely a much higher % of the population that feel "rules" don't apply to them.( And that can be any type of rule: the number of drivers that have overtaken me on the hwy doing 140kph has absolutely astounded me 🥴😆😆)

It puzzles me that you're so comfortable with people dying and requiring ventilation. Perhaps you don't appreciate the reality of ventilation. Surely you're not as heartless as you seem.

Anyway, I am aware you care little for what anyone thinks. Mine is a simple observation.