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Post by roxii on Oct 16, 2021 10:53:47 GMT 8
So my last “run” was Sept 2017. Then I did a few months of twice weekly drills to try and sort out my injury. Turns out I couldn’t. Last run of any sort was Jan 2018.
Hip replacement 2 years ago this month and since then I have not run one step, not even crossing the road in a hurry.
In the meantime my Mrs has been hiking, multi day self supported stuff, cradle mountain 6 days and that type of thing.
Anyway her and some friends decided they’d like to enter the UTA22. I expressed my displeasure at that, as I said it’s essentially a running race and is hard enough to enter at the best of times let alone with all the recent race cancellations and for a lot of runners this is their A race. I know they won’t be the only ones but still…
Anyway most weren’t organised enough to get their entries sorted but my wife got in.
I again expressed my reservations at “walkers” taking spots in a “running” race and she has agreed to train up to run as much as she can, she has done marathons in the past, and marrying me proves she enjoys a challenge.
Anyway the catch is that she said she will train to run if I train with her.
So I have been snookered into running again. I’m a bit apprehensive and also heavier than I have ever been which will be a challenge.
But this morning shot up to rebel, bought some trail shoes (threw all my running shoes out a few years ago) and just ran a 5 k at the rather pedestrian rate of 7 min ks.
It’s a start. I don’t want to run too much as it will shorten the life of my new hip and bay expedite the need for my “good hip” needing to be done as well but for now I’ll play it by ear.
As I finished the 5k Green Days “Good Riddance” came on, can’t say I had the time if my life, but it was nice to run again.
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Post by naut on Oct 16, 2021 14:53:16 GMT 8
That's pretty exciting Roxii. This year I have done the most running i have done in years and am actually enjoying it. The difference seems to be that I am doing more slow running with others which is both fun and helping me avoid the usual injuries. Still get to smash out a faster one often enough to keep me amused.
All the best with the hip, hope it all works out for you.
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Post by FatPom on Oct 16, 2021 20:17:03 GMT 8
Good to hear Roxii. Patience is the key here. I've had so many comebacks and rehabs from surgery I've lost count. Walk the hills, jog the other parts. Walking hills 'with purpose' will give you both more gains than any pace running on trails. Relentless forward movement.
If purely running though, that's a different story on the road, hill repeats running hills and walking down is helpful. Speedwork can be very useful but our version of speed changed as we get older. 7km/min is a great start and consistency is better than chasing a pace IMO.
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Post by comfortablynumb on Oct 17, 2021 5:30:49 GMT 8
Same here. Have not been able to put together any consistent run or bike training since June 2012 due to knees, but this season is looking possible (assuming races are not cancelled - our first local one today is off).
I only run 2 days/week now, much of it walk/run (e.g. run 1min, walk 1min, run 2, walk 1....etc up to run 5), never more than 5kms in total. But the old running fitness (used to be my best leg of a tri) is coming back, though I don't expect it to get back to where it was.
I'm suprised by how much you can gain with the walk-run sessions.
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Post by roxii on Oct 24, 2021 12:54:00 GMT 8
So after last weeks run Mrs asked how my hip was. I said it was hard to tell as everything was hurting.
One thing I did notice is my chest getting tight as I get the hr up. I assume it’s just that I haven’t elevated the hr for 3 years or so so the lungs are struggling to get enough in.
Anyway slugged out 6k today. Still scorching 7min kms.
Never used to run with music but need it at the moment to get me through. And it’s amazing how the universe throws songs at you at different times. My iTunes was on alphabetical not random so made it interesting.
(I have eclectic taste in music don’t judge me too harshly)
Started with Gut feeling by Devo, appropriate as I was thinking of missing the run but knew I would regret not doing it later on. Went with my gut.
Hanky Panky by Madonna was bang on the tempo I needed to run to.
As I got to the turn around I was feeling ok, then Hard act to follow, by Split Enz came on,,,,,, ominous.
The problem with it being alphabetical was that I then got Hard Road, (Hilltop Hoods) Harder Than you think (Public Enemy), Harder, Better,Faster, Stronger (Daft Punk)
Just as the chest got tight again I got Harpoon (in my heart) by Jebediah
Managed to finish on Have a little Faith in me (John Hiatt)
They say if you look hard enough you will find coincidences, but these kept me entertained as I trudged along.
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Post by comfortablynumb on Oct 24, 2021 14:43:01 GMT 8
So after last weeks run Mrs asked how my hip was. I said it was hard to tell as everything was hurting. One thing I did notice is my chest getting tight as I get the hr up. I assume it’s just that I haven’t elevated the hr for 3 years or so so the lungs are struggling to get enough in. Anyway slugged out 6k today. Still scorching 7min kms. Never used to run with music but need it at the moment to get me through. And it’s amazing how the universe throws songs at you at different times. My iTunes was on alphabetical not random so made it interesting. (I have eclectic taste in music don’t judge me too harshly) Started with Gut feeling by Devo, appropriate as I was thinking of missing the run but knew I would regret not doing it later on. Went with my gut. Hanky Panky by Madonna was bang on the tempo I needed to run to. As I got to the turn around I was feeling ok, then Hard act to follow, by Split Enz came on,,,,,, ominous. The problem with it being alphabetical was that I then got Hard Road, (Hilltop Hoods) Harder Than you think (Public Enemy), Harder, Better,Faster, Stronger (Daft Punk) Just as the chest got tight again I got Harpoon (in my heart) by Jebediah Managed to finish on Have a little Faith in me (John Hiatt) They say if you look hard enough you will find coincidences, but these kept me entertained as I trudged along. Airbourne, Hard Way. 5min kms guaranteed. |
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Post by BogFrog on Nov 30, 2021 16:17:31 GMT 8
Hey Roxi, how are you going with this?
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Post by roxii on Nov 30, 2021 16:24:32 GMT 8
Yeah a few hiccups along the way, trapped nerve put me on ice for a few weeks but back into it now and did another 5 k with the Mrs this arvo.
Good news was I got some precautionary X-rays and ultrasounds if the knees and they are apparently in damn good shape for my history, must have had a sacrificial hip joint. 😂
Gotta say I’m enjoying running with the Mrs more than running on my own.
Just gotta be patient and take it easy.
Thanks for asking
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Post by flanman on Dec 7, 2021 9:52:34 GMT 8
You have a gazzillion years off and run faster than me on your first outing. That hurts.
FM
Congrats anyway..
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Post by comfortablynumb on Dec 13, 2021 4:35:55 GMT 8
Fark me. After the best 5km run in about 10yrs at the Canberra Tri, I go and do this on the oysters while fishing at Pambula. Pambula Hospital was excellent though, in, sewn up and out in 45mins. Would have been waiting at least half a day at Armidale ER. Knee is not happy though, oyster cuts ache for weeks I've discovered from previous minor oyster cuts.  |
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Post by bnothling on Dec 13, 2021 7:43:50 GMT 8
Fark me. After the best 5km run in about 10yrs at the Canberra Tri, I go and do this on the oysters while fishing at Pambula. Pambula Hospital was excellent though, in, sewn up and out in 45mins. Would have been waiting at least half a day at Armidale ER. Knee is not happy though, oyster cuts ache for weeks I've discovered from previous minor oyster cuts. <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> Oyster cuts are the absolute worst. Make sure you keep an eye out for any signs of infection. |
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Post by comfortablynumb on Dec 13, 2021 8:45:48 GMT 8
Fark me. After the best 5km run in about 10yrs at the Canberra Tri, I go and do this on the oysters while fishing at Pambula. Pambula Hospital was excellent though, in, sewn up and out in 45mins. Would have been waiting at least half a day at Armidale ER. Knee is not happy though, oyster cuts ache for weeks I've discovered from previous minor oyster cuts. <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> Oyster cuts are the absolute worst. Make sure you keep an eye out for any signs of infection. Yes, the Practitioner Nurse who sewed me up said that too, hence I was on 2 antibiotics for 5 days. Seems to be clear of infection but knee still pretty achy/bruised. Can cycle & run on it a little but only doing those easy for now till it feels more normal. With prostate surgery looming in January, I might get one more race in this season if lucky, maybe March/April? Really thought this season I'd get a few more races done, but it is not to be. |
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Post by FatPom on Dec 17, 2021 16:49:16 GMT 8
Yeah a few hiccups along the way, trapped nerve put me on ice for a few weeks but back into it now and did another 5 k with the Mrs this arvo. Good news was I got some precautionary X-rays and ultrasounds if the knees and they are apparently in damn good shape for my history, must have had a sacrificial hip joint. 😂 Gotta say I’m enjoying running with the Mrs more than running on my own. Just gotta be patient and take it easy. Thanks for asking Good to hear Roxii. I spend an awful lot of time running on my own, up to 7hrs sometimes and I always realise how pleasant it is with others around when I do have company. Nice and steady mate. I've had to pull out of Arc of Attrition 0 miler in January I've been addressing a weak hip issue, that sees me in pain after only about 60-70km, and I'm still trying ti nail my first 100 miler. (70 miles is my furthest so far). During the S&C session, somehow I developed a soleus injury, so no running for me until early Jan at best. I have a running specific physio now and comes to the house. He looks at my strength in the same way a builder looks at a crumbling wall and sucks in his breath a lot.  Onwards and upwards mate. |
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Post by flanman on Mar 3, 2022 7:53:52 GMT 8
Any update Roxii ? How's the hip going ?
FM
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Post by roxii on Mar 3, 2022 8:55:40 GMT 8
Hey mate, thanks been meaning to update but its a work in progress. Went to Qld at Christmas and was struggling to do a few run/ walks, and the Mrs was running away from me. She was training for the Great South West Walk in Vic (a 250k hike carrying all her stuff) so in preparation she wanted to losa a few kgs, (she was only 59kgs anyway) she got onto Noom and it seemed to work ok. I decided to eat a bit better to support her as I wasn't happy with my weight anyway (closing in on 100kg) but was pretty half arsed about it. Anyway we got back from Qld, she headed off to Vic for two weeks and I joined Noom and started getting serious about losing a few kgs. Was walking a shedload (up to 30kms a day) but generally doing at least 10k a day and eating much less crap. Was dropping 2kg a week. Currently down to 83kg and still losing but it has slowed down a bit. Back to running.... I have only been running about once a week for 5 k or so but am managing to do 6 min ks. Its still feels like a struggle as Im not "run fit" but I feel better now that Im lighter. But also dieting seems to leave you feeling a bit flat ad hard to push yourself. Hopefully will lose a few more kgs which will let me run a bit more without worrying too much about my hip, and then hopefully work my way back into some run fitness and hopefully then the improvements will come. So far the hip seems fine, hiked Cradle Mountain in Tassie on the weekend with no issues. Fingers crossed while I touch wood.  Thanks for asking |
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Post by flanman on Mar 3, 2022 9:29:59 GMT 8
That sounds great. Congrats on getting the mind focused and the body going. Small steps as they say.
FM
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Post by FatPom on Mar 5, 2022 0:30:19 GMT 8
Good work Roxii
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Post by comfortablynumb on Mar 8, 2022 4:12:41 GMT 8
Next hurdles in the 10 year project of trying to return to some consistent training/racing.
Scan y'day reveal femoral & inguinal hernias on the left (femoral quite rare apparently)....to go along with the prostate surgery planned for the end of April.
Have been having adductor & lower ab pain for 6+ months now, esp. with running. Not really sure which of the above issues is causing it, hoping the prostate surgery may the main solution.
Still planning to have a crack at the TREX in 3 wks though, even if just the aquathon, though would love to be able to do the whole tri. 8kms of trail running on no recent run training may be ugly though.
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Post by roxii on Apr 21, 2022 9:00:21 GMT 8
Soo a bit of an update. Ive managed to turn my weight around, literally. I was 97 kg Im now 79 kgs. Still only running once or twice a week but it feels like it is getting a bit easier and less aches, pains and niggles now.
Mrs UTA 22 was postponed till October, and it the heat of the moment with all the entry cancellations and transfers I've managed, I think, to have landed myself a 22k entry for the October version.
At worst I think at least it will keep me motivated to try and lose a few more kgs and keep up my running. It will be my first event in about 4 years. Ran a flat 6k yesterday to try and dislodge some Easter weekend sluggishness and managed 5.36 min km average so it seems the numbers (weight and pace) are moving in the right direction. Distance will be the next one and no doubt the hardest.
So far new hip is still doing ok (well skeletally its fine, muscles still need some work) , and the old hip which I've been told is on borrowed time is also ok..... fingers crossed.
May set myself the goal of a sprint tri towards the end of next season, just for sh!ts and giggles.
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Post by FatPom on Apr 21, 2022 15:05:32 GMT 8
Good stuff mate, keep going. On an eight day Sat-Sun week last week I ran 110kms, a mix of trail and road and Little One decided she wanted to 'go for one' at Parkrun, so she threw down a 25.08, sprinted at the end and at that point I had 90kms in my legs and could barely keep up with her sprint  You mention UTA, do you do a lot of trail running? It's a completely different mindset, can involve walking but also rarely has your feet level, so not sure if that's a consideration for you? I love trail the most but still enjoy road running. I was 57 12 days ago and weight is definitely harder to shift as you get older. I'm stuck on 86kgs at the moment but need to get sub 80 again. My season starts on May4th with a local little 52km trail race, then Endure24 mid June and a 108km race in Cornwall called The Plague (starts at 12.05AM) that's a qualifier for the 100mile Arc of Attrition in January. Right now I have raging toothache and a roof canal planned for May 4th, so that 52km race will be 'interesting'  I barely ride these days. Sold the TT bike and the Bianchi, just have a Focus Paralane and the Giant XC mtb. |
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Post by roxii on Apr 22, 2022 9:53:57 GMT 8
Thanks mate. 110km week is a big one. Good work.
Yeah I have been running trails but they are mostly fire trail type stuff, not scrambling or stairs or that sort of stuff. I will work on fitness first and then get the mileage up then will do some specific stuff on getting the hip flexibility back, in saying that its not too bad at the moment I have good range of movement it just gets a bit tricky when its tired.
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Post by FatPom on Apr 22, 2022 15:52:17 GMT 8
Good to hear. Sometimes I do a specific very session on St Catherines Hill in Winchester, it has steps up one side and a trail valley on the other. Each ascent is about 38mtrs. I walk up and jog down in a 'V' shape and try to get 1000mtrs vert which only equates to about 14km but takes about 2.5hrs  |
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Post by comfortablynumb on Apr 24, 2022 7:33:01 GMT 8
Soo a bit of an update. Ive managed to turn my weight around, literally. I was 97 kg Im now 79 kgs. Still only running once or twice a week but it feels like it is getting a bit easier and less aches, pains and niggles now. Mrs UTA 22 was postponed till October, and it the heat of the moment with all the entry cancellations and transfers I've managed, I think, to have landed myself a 22k entry for the October version. At worst I think at least it will keep me motivated to try and lose a few more kgs and keep up my running. It will be my first event in about 4 years. Ran a flat 6k yesterday to try and dislodge some Easter weekend sluggishness and managed 5.36 min km average so it seems the numbers (weight and pace) are moving in the right direction. Distance will be the next one and no doubt the hardest. So far new hip is still doing ok (well skeletally its fine, muscles still need some work) , and the old hip which I've been told is on borrowed time is also ok..... fingers crossed. May set myself the goal of a sprint tri towards the end of next season, just for sh!ts and giggles. What was the secret for losing the weight Roxii? |
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Post by roxii on Apr 24, 2022 9:00:26 GMT 8
What was the secret for losing the weight Roxii?[/quote] Shame mostly. The impending arrival of 100kgs. Blood pressure slowly creeping up (I give blood so it gets checked every few weeks), all these factors were playing on my mind then the Mrs jumped on Noom to lose a few kgs and it worked so I did it too. It’s just calorie counting really (with a massive dose of American cheerleading on the side) and some psychology tips but for me it’s really the calorie counting. I mostly eat well but I eat too much and snack too often. Also the first few weeks I really smashed the exercise too, walking 20k most days. As with most “weight loss” regimes it’s not a lot of fun but if it works the rewards are worth the sacrifices. |
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Post by dalai on Apr 24, 2022 9:29:02 GMT 8
Good work Roxxii. Walking 20km per day!!?? How did you squeeze that into your day? I'm walking max hour - hour and a half. Can't fathom double that!
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Post by comfortablynumb on Apr 24, 2022 9:40:11 GMT 8
What was the secret for losing the weight Roxii? Shame mostly. The impending arrival of 100kgs. Blood pressure slowly creeping up (I give blood so it gets checked every few weeks), all these factors were playing on my mind then the Mrs jumped on Noom to lose a few kgs and it worked so I did it too. It’s just calorie counting really (with a massive dose of American cheerleading on the side) and some psychology tips but for me it’s really the calorie counting. I mostly eat well but I eat too much and snack too often. Also the first few weeks I really smashed the exercise too, walking 20k most days. As with most “weight loss” regimes it’s not a lot of fun but if it works the rewards are worth the sacrifices. [/quote] Yes, I've discovered reducing calories is the only way I can lose weight, which all goes on my gut. I hit 70kg recently the heaviest of my life. Replacing 4 dinners per week with Manshakes got me back down to 65-66kg over about 3-4 weeks but I lost the plot and am back up to about 68 now. I'm not sure my system can cope with that drop in calories/nutrition even though I only do 30-120mins training per day. I've been feeling really fatigued lately (though that could be related to the prostate issue - surgery on Wed, then forced rest so will be interesting to see what happens after that). |
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Post by roxii on Apr 24, 2022 10:17:01 GMT 8
Good work Roxxii. Walking 20km per day!!?? How did you squeeze that into your day? I'm walking max hour - hour and a half. Can't fathom double that! Get up early and do 10k before work then after dinner just walk instead of sitting down watching tv. This was during summer so plenty of daylight to play with, so it wasn’t too bad. Sydney’s big wet was a bit testing though. A few nights walking while totally saturated, frogs jumping across the path in front of you, certainly tested your resolve. But losing 3kg a fortnight keeps you motivated. Now just trying to maintain my 10000 steps per day. |
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Post by roxii on Oct 9, 2022 11:16:56 GMT 8
That awkward moment when out having a “run” and you see your surgeon who told you not to run on your new hip!
Oops!!
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Post by FatPom on Oct 10, 2022 21:28:52 GMT 8
That awkward moment when out having a “run” and you see your surgeon who told you not to run on your new hip! Oops!! I would have doubled down and shouted 'whaddya you know buddy'? and then sprinted past. (and die around the corner ) |
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