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Post by Ironnerd on Nov 3, 2021 10:19:55 GMT 8
Not sure if there has been much media in the east about this, but in WA it has been head line news. Three weeks ago a 4 year old girl disappeared from her family tent at a popular camping ground. Police did an extensive search but could not locate her. Police then started treating it as an abduction. After 3 weeks I did not think that there would be a good ending to this story. However yesterday the police rescued the girl from a house in Carnarvon. www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-03/wa-police-cleo-smith-found/100589742
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Post by dalai on Nov 3, 2021 10:23:35 GMT 8
Such good news! Really thought if every found, she wouldn't be found alive.
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Post by IronJimbo on Nov 3, 2021 10:51:48 GMT 8
Excellent news. Hopefully she won't be too badly affected by the experience
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Post by DropBear on Nov 3, 2021 11:07:58 GMT 8
Not sure if there has been much media in the east about this, but in WA it has been head line news. Three weeks ago a 4 year old girl disappeared from her family tent at a popular camping ground. Police did an extensive search but could not locate her. Police then started treating it as an abduction. After 3 weeks I did not think that there would be a good ending to this story. However yesterday the police rescued the girl from a house in Carnarvon. www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-03/wa-police-cleo-smith-found/100589742I turned on the TV at 6:30 this morning and got nothing else for the next 45 minutes when I turned it off. Channel 7 even cut the weather guy off short so Koshi could continue to endlessly crap on about it. Good to see the kid is safe and well but gees did the commercial stations go overboard.
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Post by roxii on Nov 3, 2021 11:15:38 GMT 8
Yep amazing stuff and an outcome I dont think may were expecting. Great work by the cops.
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Post by Peter on Nov 3, 2021 11:58:10 GMT 8
Excellent news. Hopefully she won't be too badly affected by the experience I doubt a 4 year old would remember anything in months to come. unless the parents keep reminding her. great outcome of a potentially sh!t situation. the real story of the guy will be interesting given it was 1am and he wasn’t there. Had been buying nappies for her. Etc….
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Post by roxii on Nov 3, 2021 14:05:18 GMT 8
Excellent news. Hopefully she won't be too badly affected by the experience I doubt a 4 year old would remember anything in months to come. unless the parents keep reminding her. I’m sure the media organisations are circling with chequebooks to ensure she has a “heartwarming special” to watch in the future.
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Post by kieran on Nov 3, 2021 14:16:52 GMT 8
I go to the blowholes (quobba) all the time, the one thing I found strange was that no one witnessed this despite it being early in the AM when it happened. It’s a very popular spot, being so close to town and it’s on the way to Gnarloo. People are always up on the tins all night, to not see anything from the over 100 campers stumps me. He would have driven past the BP on his way even if he took the speedway road he comes down the back of the bp past the space station.
Anyway so stoked Cleo has been found. I hope she was physically not hurt.
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Post by BogFrog on Nov 4, 2021 4:10:20 GMT 8
Well they did say that a car was spotted - maybe that was him?
And yes, I hope the media backs off the family now and let's them get on with it. Don't want the girl to have to change her name in the future and always be known as that girl who was abducted
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Post by kenkong on Nov 4, 2021 4:45:35 GMT 8
FFS read this morning Buddy Franklin's wife has been going on about how they wouldn't have put as much effort into finding the girl if she was aboriginal.
I thought wow how on earth do you manage to make some amazing thing like a little girl being found safe about race?
And then see on the news the scumbag arrested was aboriginal. I guess the best form of defence is offence..
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Post by Peter on Nov 4, 2021 5:46:03 GMT 8
FFS read this morning Buddy Franklin's wife has been going on about how they wouldn't have put as much effort into finding the girl if she was aboriginal. I thought wow how on earth do you manage to make some amazing thing like a little girl being found safe about race? And then see on the news the scumbag arrested was aboriginal. I guess the best form of defence is offence.. Why can’t celebrities, try and not make everything about them. just be happy she was found safe and unharmed. ffs
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Post by comfortablynumb on Nov 4, 2021 8:50:44 GMT 8
Incredible result. I'd thought that if a woman who wanted a child had abducted her there was a good chance she'd be found alive, but if a man abducted her, very slim chance she'd be found alive.
The police did a thorough job, though from what I've read, it was a fortuitous tip-off from someone who saw him buying baby items, and knew he did not have a child that got the job done. If that member of the public had not been on the ball......
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Post by prince on Nov 4, 2021 9:39:00 GMT 8
Incredible result. I'd thought that if a woman who wanted a child had abducted her there was a good chance she'd be found alive, but if a man abducted her, very slim chance she'd be found alive. The police did a thorough job, though from what I've read, it was a fortuitous tip-off from someone who saw him buying baby items, and knew he did not have a child that got the job done. If that member of the public had not been on the ball...... I heave heard different reports. I heard that a member of the public didn't tip them off, but they did mention the buying of baby items after they had found her. As there wouldn't be scores of traffic in the area the morning of the disappearance, i think they probably found some way to track the person involved. I heard they even were checking mobile phone towers. I am sure all will be revealed at some stage
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Post by Peter on Nov 4, 2021 10:44:04 GMT 8
Incredible result. I'd thought that if a woman who wanted a child had abducted her there was a good chance she'd be found alive, but if a man abducted her, very slim chance she'd be found alive. The police did a thorough job, though from what I've read, it was a fortuitous tip-off from someone who saw him buying baby items, and knew he did not have a child that got the job done. If that member of the public had not been on the ball...... That can’t be true because they said no one will be able to claim the 1 million bucks. if it was true and that info lead to them finding her, there isn’t one person in australia that would think they get the cash.
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Post by IronJimbo on Nov 4, 2021 10:45:39 GMT 8
FFS read this morning Buddy Franklin's wife has been going on about how they wouldn't have put as much effort into finding the girl if she was aboriginal. I thought wow how on earth do you manage to make some amazing thing like a little girl being found safe about race? And then see on the news the scumbag arrested was aboriginal. I guess the best form of defence is offence.. Obviously clumsy, but unfortunately she has a point Indigenous kids can suffer horrendous abuse and neglect, but not for the reason Mrs Franklin would suggest
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Post by Peter on Nov 4, 2021 10:46:37 GMT 8
Model and footy WAG Jesinta Franklin appears to have deleted her Instagram post about missing girl Cleo Smith highlighting the 'disparity' in media coverage of missing children who are white and those who are black or Indigenous.
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Post by Ironnerd on Nov 4, 2021 12:43:50 GMT 8
FFS read this morning Buddy Franklin's wife has been going on about how they wouldn't have put as much effort into finding the girl if she was aboriginal. I thought wow how on earth do you manage to make some amazing thing like a little girl being found safe about race? And then see on the news the scumbag arrested was aboriginal. I guess the best form of defence is offence.. Hypocrisy Hypocrisy is the practice of engaging in the same behavior or activity for which one criticizes another or the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform. In moral psychology, it is the failure to follow one's own expressed moral rules and principles.
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Post by DropBear on Nov 4, 2021 12:48:26 GMT 8
FFS read this morning Buddy Franklin's wife has been going on about how they wouldn't have put as much effort into finding the girl if she was aboriginal. I thought wow how on earth do you manage to make some amazing thing like a little girl being found safe about race? She's worked out that her celebrity rating wasn't high enough to earn a spot of Big Brother VIP?
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Post by IronJimbo on Nov 4, 2021 15:04:40 GMT 8
Hypocrisy Hypocrisy is the practice of engaging in the same behavior or activity for which one criticizes another or the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform. In moral psychology, it is the failure to follow one's own expressed moral rules and principles. Exhibit A:
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Post by Peter on Nov 4, 2021 15:11:00 GMT 8
Hypocrisy Hypocrisy is the practice of engaging in the same behavior or activity for which one criticizes another or the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform. In moral psychology, it is the failure to follow one's own expressed moral rules and principles. Exhibit A: Great example why leaders pretending climate change matters to them is bullsh!t.
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Post by IronJimbo on Nov 4, 2021 15:29:46 GMT 8
Great example why leaders pretending climate change matters to them is bullsh!t. I'll believe there is a problem when the people telling me there's a problem start behaving as if there is a problem
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Post by BogFrog on Nov 4, 2021 15:35:22 GMT 8
FFS read this morning Buddy Franklin's wife has been going on about how they wouldn't have put as much effort into finding the girl if she was aboriginal. I thought wow how on earth do you manage to make some amazing thing like a little girl being found safe about race? And then see on the news the scumbag arrested was aboriginal. I guess the best form of defence is offence.. Where did you read that the guy arrested was of aboriginal background? Is this the now debunked story from 7 news or do we know the heritage of the guy?
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Post by kenkong on Nov 4, 2021 15:44:29 GMT 8
FFS read this morning Buddy Franklin's wife has been going on about how they wouldn't have put as much effort into finding the girl if she was aboriginal. I thought wow how on earth do you manage to make some amazing thing like a little girl being found safe about race? And then see on the news the scumbag arrested was aboriginal. I guess the best form of defence is offence.. Where did you read that the guy arrested was of aboriginal background? Is this the now debunked story from 7 news or do we know the heritage of the guy? The footage of him in the back of the ambulance, clearly aboriginal
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Post by kenkong on Nov 4, 2021 15:46:25 GMT 8
Exhibit A: Great example why leaders pretending climate change matters to them is bullsh!t. Funny isn't it how the world was able to keep on working with conference calls but now there is a vacine all of a sudden the politicians are back to flying around the world polluting the skies..
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Post by Peter on Nov 5, 2021 4:10:05 GMT 8
FFS read this morning Buddy Franklin's wife has been going on about how they wouldn't have put as much effort into finding the girl if she was aboriginal. I thought wow how on earth do you manage to make some amazing thing like a little girl being found safe about race? And then see on the news the scumbag arrested was aboriginal. I guess the best form of defence is offence.. Where did you read that the guy arrested was of aboriginal background? Is this the now debunked story from 7 news or do we know the heritage of the guy? the guy is 100% aboriginal. Sadly but it seems he didn’t hurt her at all which is good.
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Post by BogFrog on Nov 5, 2021 4:23:06 GMT 8
I haven't seen any footage so...
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Post by kenkong on Nov 5, 2021 4:28:05 GMT 8
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Post by comfortablynumb on Nov 5, 2021 5:02:44 GMT 8
Those Bratz dolls would be worth a few bob now too. Seems he wanted a more life-like doll? Appears he did not harm her either which is a miracle, but we'll see in due course I suppose. The apparent randomness of her abduction is frightening, but just like the Maddie McCann case. Though the cops in Portugal were way too slow to act with roadblocks etc compared to those in WA. Reading more, it seems the WA cops did a great job of sifting the clues, esp. related to the car seen in the area. The Civil Libertarians have a melt-down about surveillance cameras, but in this case they may have been crucial. Don't break the law and cameras are not an issue. Also makes me re-think the William Tyrell situation. I always thought the chances of a random driving up that dead-end road just as William ran around the front of the house were so small, it had to be someone who knew William was there. Maybe not?
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Post by DropBear on Nov 5, 2021 5:58:53 GMT 8
Don't break the law and cameras are not an issue. I generally don't have an issue with the CC cameras because I think that the benefits outweigh the costs but using the "Don't break the law and its not an issue" line as a defence for having them is absolute crap. If you could absolutely guarantee that the images were only being used for the purposes of crime prevention (which is the stated reason why they're there) then it would be true. But we all know thats not the case. As with every piece of data thats captured and stored whether it be metadata, images, sound bytes, etc the potential for abuse is there. It happened with the internet metadata, it happened with the covid data, it happens with CCTV images. Justify the cameras if you choose but don't use that as a defence.
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Post by BogFrog on Nov 5, 2021 7:12:51 GMT 8
I haven't seen any footage so... Sooo... So what? You think we are making it up as some conspiracy theory to demonise the Black man.... Just so you can sleep tonight there's a nice pic of the sicko wearing a girls t-shirt in this article.. Jeez! You need to reduce your outrage! I had read that 7 news had falsely named an aboriginal man as the alleged perp. I was simply asking if we knew whethet the actual perp was of aboriginal heritage or not, or if what you had written was from the original, false, 7 news report.
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