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Post by Peter on Dec 9, 2021 11:25:46 GMT 8
New Zealand BANS smoking: Jacinda Ardern's radical new laws will stop young people from EVER buying cigarettes as nation goes entirely 'smoke-free' by 2025 - so is Australia set to follow?
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Post by DropBear on Dec 9, 2021 11:54:45 GMT 8
New Zealand BANS smoking: Jacinda Ardern's radical new laws will stop young people from EVER buying cigarettes as nation goes entirely 'smoke-free' by 2025 - so is Australia set to follow? In a country where politicians appearing to do something is far more important than them actually doing something, I'd suggest theres not a pollie out there with big enough kahunas to raise the issue (and mean it) |
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Post by kenkong on Dec 9, 2021 15:14:16 GMT 8
Great, another lucrative avenue for crooks to exploit FFS....
I think the current approach is Oz is perfect, you can still buy them so no market for crooks, though socially unnacepted and shops hide them and are not allowed to sell them to you unless you ask for a specific brand and type.
Banning them will just result in crooks making even more money from cho chop...
If you really had kahunas you would make drugs legal. Have them prescribed and administered by GP's. Instant elimination of the majority of aggravated burgs and also a major revenue stream for crooks.
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Post by DropBear on Dec 9, 2021 16:46:40 GMT 8
I think the current approach is Oz is perfect, you can still buy them so no market for crooks, t You don't get round much do you. The black market for tabacco is huge and the higher the tax the bigger the black market will become. from ABC News |
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Post by kenkong on Dec 9, 2021 16:51:30 GMT 8
I think the current approach is Oz is perfect, you can still buy them so no market for crooks, t You don't get round much do you. The black market for tabacco is huge and the higher the tax the bigger the black market will become. from ABC NewsI realise there is a large market for it currently in Oz, but imagine what it wood be like if it was totally illegal..... The price at shops is high enough to prevent most new smokers from taking up the habit, and the existing smokers by and large buy their smokes legally at a price pain point that makes them think twice. Make it illegal and you have just forced an entire market directly into the hands of the underground with zero alternative. If i was a crook id be rubbing my hands together!! |
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Post by Peter on Dec 9, 2021 18:00:24 GMT 8
You don't get round much do you. The black market for tabacco is huge and the higher the tax the bigger the black market will become. from ABC NewsI realise there is a large market for it currently in Oz, but imagine what it wood be like if it was totally illegal..... The price at shops is high enough to prevent most new smokers from taking up the habit, and the existing smokers by and large buy their smokes legally at a price pain point that makes them think twice. Make it illegal and you have just forced an entire market directly into the hands of the underground with zero alternative. If i was a crook id be rubbing my hands together!! There is a street about 19 blocks from me and every car in the street is a supercar. thehouses there sell for 800k. they are all illegal smokes sellers. Its comm Knowledge |
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Post by Peter on Dec 9, 2021 18:01:40 GMT 8
Here the bust last week.
Police raid 14 properties, arrest two men over $7 million tobacco heist
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Police raid 14 properties, arrest two men over $7 million tobacco heist
By Cameron Houston
December 3, 2021 — 1.31pm
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Victoria Police believe they’ve smashed a major crime syndicate involved in the theft of more than $7 million worth of cigarettes following a series of raids on properties in Melbourne’s west and the arrest of two men.
A B-double truck loaded with thousands of cigarette cartons was stolen from a transport distribution centre in Altona on September 5 in what was believed to be one of the state’s most lucrative heists.
A cigarette truck was stolen from an Altona address in September.
A cigarette truck was stolen from an Altona address in September. CREDIT:NIC WALKER
A taskforce of detectives from the Hobsons Bay crime investigation unit launched raids on 14 properties in Altona North, Hoppers Crossing, Laverton North, Niddrie, Roxburgh Park, Sunshine and Williamstown over the past week, following a major investigation of the robbery.
Ghazi Haddara, 32, from Hoppers Crossing, was charged with two counts of theft to the value of approximately $7.3 million and failing to provide police with a phone PIN number.
Mr Haddara was granted bail and was due to appear at a filing hearing in the Melbourne Magistrates Court on Friday.
A 33-year-old Sunshine man was also charged with two counts of possessing the proceeds of crime and failing to provide police with a phone PIN number. He was granted bailed and is due to appear before the Melbourne Magistrates’ Court in September next year.
Detectives also arrested a further seven men, who were released without charge pending further enquiries.
Police seized more than $240,000 in cash in the raids, along with 480 cartons of cigarettes, 400 pouches of loose-leaf tobacco and 190 packets of prohibited import brands of cigarettes.
The raids also uncovered weapons, including an imitation assault rifle, .40 calibre firearm magazine and ammunition, along with gold and silver ingots, 25 vials of steroids and electronic equipment.
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