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Post by comfortablynumb on Feb 3, 2022 12:26:16 GMT 8
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Post by DropBear on Feb 3, 2022 12:36:36 GMT 8
Just a heads up for anybody considering it. If something goes wrong, NSW Health will protect the doctors who should have been there making the decisions but wern't and you will be the expendable scapegoat and completely screwed.
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Post by IronJimbo on Feb 3, 2022 13:16:42 GMT 8
Looking forward to the campaign promising Lebanese cadets a 'sick' career
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2022 6:11:17 GMT 8
What is the point of this thread? |
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Post by DropBear on Feb 5, 2022 6:49:27 GMT 8
What is the point of this thread? Probably the inappropriateness of being woke and suggesting somebody be "deadly" in their career when the career concerned is nursing. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2022 8:02:48 GMT 8
Well yes being deadly as a health professional may not be the best choice. That's not woke though?
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Post by DropBear on Feb 5, 2022 10:15:50 GMT 8
Well yes being deadly as a health professional may not be the best choice. That's not woke though? Well I think so. Its targeting a specific demographic, using phrasology only associated with that demographic in an aim to get that specific demographic into a profession thats under represented by that demographic. And if it had targeted white anglo-saxons then I dare say the crap would have hit the fan. |
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Post by kenkong on Feb 5, 2022 10:58:47 GMT 8
Well yes being deadly as a health professional may not be the best choice. That's not woke though? Well I think so. Its targeting a specific demographic, using phrasology only associated with that demographic in an aim to get that specific demographic into a profession thats under represented by that demographic. And if it had targeted white anglo-saxons then I dare say the crap would have hit the fan. Is the white Anglo in the picture supposed to be Aboriginal, or is it obvious she is 1/1000 Koori mob?? |
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Post by sammyb on Feb 6, 2022 2:57:33 GMT 8
That's not woke.
Just plain old cringe worthy. <insert face-palm emoji>
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Post by comfortablynumb on Feb 6, 2022 4:03:35 GMT 8
Well I think so. Its targeting a specific demographic, using phrasology only associated with that demographic in an aim to get that specific demographic into a profession thats under represented by that demographic. And if it had targeted white anglo-saxons then I dare say the crap would have hit the fan. Is the white Anglo in the picture supposed to be Aboriginal, or is it obvious she is 1/1000 Koori mob?? I did actually meet a red headed indigenous bloke once back in the 80's, but he still looked way more aboriginal than this girl. I think 1/250th is the magic cutoff mark? |
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Post by BogFrog on Feb 8, 2022 17:59:27 GMT 8
I don't understand how this is either woke or cringeworthy. How is trying to attract people of aboriginal heritage to the nursing profession a bad thing? Aboriginal communities would likely accept and listen to an aboriginal nurse more than to a Caucasian one. You would be more likely to have an aboriginal burst move and live in an aboriginal community that a Caucasian one... Using the language of your audience is clearly going to make your audience notice more than using a language and tone that they wouldn't naturally use. "Deadly" in Australia seems to be a word that is used by the aboriginal community the same was Caucasians would use "awesome"  I don't see the issue. |
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Post by kenkong on Feb 9, 2022 11:31:50 GMT 8
I don't understand how this is either woke or cringeworthy. How is trying to attract people of aboriginal heritage to the nursing profession a bad thing? Aboriginal communities would likely accept and listen to an aboriginal nurse more than to a Caucasian one. You would be more likely to have an aboriginal burst move and live in an aboriginal community that a Caucasian one... Using the language of your audience is clearly going to make your audience notice more than using a language and tone that they wouldn't naturally use. "Deadly" in Australia seems to be a word that is used by the aboriginal community the same was Caucasians would use "awesome"  I don't see the issue. Just because a certain demographic uses a certain word doesn't mean it is appropriate and certainly doesn't mean it should be used carte blanche...heck when I was growing up the local lebos all used to call each other sick c$nts...I guess by your reasoning its use would be appropriate to get lebos into nursing...'become a nurse, become a sick c%nt' That aside they could have at least used a Koori in the ad... |
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Post by comfortablynumb on Feb 27, 2022 13:04:09 GMT 8
Last week I attended a (virtual) conference on regional governance issues.
There was a very well credentialed/connected & eloquent indigenous speaker talking about indigenous governance issues.
He spent 3/4 of his 45mins talking about the wrongs of the past & how indigenous people did not feel they had a voice at the table in self-determination matters. I hear this all the time, and can't help thinking they'll never 'close the gap' till they get beyond dwelling on the past....and also the issue that when you have various indigenous groups together in a room, the factional/tribal divisions are pretty much insurmountable.
But the one that really gob-smacked me. This bloke sits on many national & international indigenous 'councils' and said over the years he's seen decisions made where he thinks "that will never work, but as it's a decision you've come to collectively, with a voice at the table, we need to go with it". Just made me think how much more money will we waste on failing indigenous 'non-solutions'?
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Post by BogFrog on Feb 27, 2022 15:24:59 GMT 8
When the wrongs of the past aren't properly acknowledged, when they are dismissed as "in the past", when they aren't taught or spoken about by the perpetrators (or descendants), when the descendants don't acknowledge the benefits they have reaped from these wrongs, yes, they will be brought up again and again and again. It's like an old wound that won't heal and each time the wound is not acknowledged, it's like a wound being picked at.
As to what the solution to "bridge the gap" is, I have no idea but the Aboriginal population needs to have a seat (if not all seats) at that discussion table... And it will be difficult to get everyone to agree - there are different tribes who have different histories and lived experiences. To put them all under one solution as if they are all the same is never going to work.
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Post by comfortablynumb on Feb 27, 2022 15:53:51 GMT 8
When the wrongs of the past aren't properly acknowledged, when they are dismissed as "in the past", when they aren't taught or spoken about by the perpetrators (or descendants), when the descendants don't acknowledge the benefits they have reaped from these wrongs, yes, they will be brought up again and again and again. It's like an old wound that won't heal and each time the wound is not acknowledged, it's like a wound being picked at. As to what the solution to "bridge the gap" is, I have no idea but the Aboriginal population needs to have a seat (if not all seats) at that discussion table... And it will be difficult to get everyone to agree - there are different tribes who have different histories and lived experiences. To put them all under one solution as if they are all the same is never going to work. Yes, I more or less get that. But where is the end game? We've had apologies in Federal Parliament, and a whole host of other things, when is enough enough & time to try & move forward? I can't see a solution? Fark me, we've all been wronged to greater or lesser degrees, but some have the foresight to put it behind & move forward. I don't think the Nazi's ever acknowledged the Holocaust, but people have moved on. |
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Post by BogFrog on Feb 27, 2022 16:03:55 GMT 8
... I don't think the Nazi's ever acknowledged the Holocaust, but people have moved on. Godwin's Law... Anyway, the Germans have acknowledged the past and are taught about it. They were also punished |
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