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Post by IronJimbo on May 24, 2022 9:21:09 GMT 8
See doesn’t matter what people say, if its neg About the federal liberals you’ll justify it to suit you. You really are a loser in life Why are you getting so angry and personal? All I have done is try and understand why you felt so strongly about Scomo and him apparently treating women poorly...you still can't even explain what Scomo did to treat women like sh!t and the only example you could come up with was blatantly false. Can you see how irrational your response to that is...? It doesn’t matter what people say, if its neg about the federal liberals the haters will justify it to suit themselves
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Post by Peter on May 24, 2022 13:11:04 GMT 8
Why are you getting so angry and personal? All I have done is try and understand why you felt so strongly about Scomo and him apparently treating women poorly...you still can't even explain what Scomo did to treat women like sh!t and the only example you could come up with was blatantly false. Can you see how irrational your response to that is...? It doesn’t matter what people say, if its neg about the federal liberals the haters will justify it to suit themselves Actually as I’ve said, I would have voted liberal if their leader wasn’t a useless piece of sh!t.
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Post by DropBear on May 24, 2022 17:28:19 GMT 8
Actually as I’ve said, I would have voted liberal if their leader wasn’t a useless piece of sh!t. I'd have voted Liberal if they hadn't kept running that stupid irritating ad with the Bucket. It eventually just pissed me off so much that I refused to vote Liberal on principle. That and the fact that the previous Liberal member in our electorate was hounded out of Parliament for (alleged) inappropriate behavior and they then pre-selected the only bloke (adding that he was white anglo saxon description is unnecessary in this case) in a field of 5. If he was the best person for the position I probably wouldn't have had an issue with it but I seriously doubt that he was.
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Post by Peter on May 25, 2022 7:55:25 GMT 8
Liberal MPs who feared their government was on a path to electoral oblivion urged Josh Frydenberg to challenge Scott Morrison in September last year but were unable to convince the former treasurer to turn against his leader.
Liberal senator Andrew Bragg, one of a number of moderate MPs who approached Frydenberg with the idea of a leadership coup, confirmed preliminary discussions took place but that the plot faltered after Frydenberg declared his loyalty to the prime minister
They should have done it. Probably would have won
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Post by DropBear on May 25, 2022 10:35:55 GMT 8
Liberal MPs who feared their government was on a path to electoral oblivion urged Josh Frydenberg to challenge Scott Morrison in September last year but were unable to convince the former treasurer to turn against his leader. Liberal senator Andrew Bragg, one of a number of moderate MPs who approached Frydenberg with the idea of a leadership coup, confirmed preliminary discussions took place but that the plot faltered after Frydenberg declared his loyalty to the prime minister They should have done it. Probably would have won I doubt it. The seeds of discontent had already been well and truly sown by then. Changing the order of the deckchairs wouldn't have made much of a difference.
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Post by prince on May 25, 2022 10:46:24 GMT 8
hell, Fydenberg didn't even win his own seat so it wouldn't have made any difference. The Change was on and it is a fact of life when times are tough people want change and will always blame the existing government. All the pundits though are speculating that the reasons the independents and greens did so well is because clearly the majority want action on climate change.
Although there were are few who voted for that reason, i think it was simply a vote against both parties and Labor are the ones who reaped the benefits of the preference system.
There are also many pundits who are saying the Libs or Coalition are finished and will be in the wilderness for many years... Well guess what, they said the same about Labor last election. If Albo can be PM, Mr Potato Head can also be PM. It is going to be a wild ride for Albo for the next 3 years and i could barely make out who was who when he was photographed with Biden yesterday.
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Post by DropBear on May 25, 2022 11:15:49 GMT 8
hell, Fydenberg didn't even win his own seat so it wouldn't have made any difference. The Change was on and it is a fact of life when times are tough people want change and will always blame the existing government. All the pundits though are speculating that the reasons the independents and greens did so well is because clearly the majority want action on climate change. Although there were are few who voted for that reason, i think it was simply a vote against both parties and Labor are the ones who reaped the benefits of the preference system. There are also many pundits who are saying the Libs or Coalition are finished and will be in the wilderness for many years... Well guess what, they said the same about Labor last election. If Albo can be PM, Mr Potato Head can also be PM. It is going to be a wild ride for Albo for the next 3 years and i could barely make out who was who when he was photographed with Biden yesterday. Interesting to note that in the southern states the teal independents picked up the fallout whereas in Queensland the Greens picked up the vote. Sure, that could have been because the teal independents didn't get quite the same publicity up north but the alternative theory is that people in Queensland voted Green because of the backlash against AP and the way that she handled the end of covid lockdowns. Lot of people got frustrated by the significantly slower than expected release from restrictions.
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Post by Peter on May 25, 2022 12:21:29 GMT 8
You naile dit here in my opinion. Climate changes whilst happening, is still BS. prince Avatar May 25, 2022 12:46:24 GMT 10 prince said: hell, Fydenberg didn't even win his own seat so it wouldn't have made any difference. The Change was on and it is a fact of life when times are tough people want change and will always blame the existing government. All the pundits though are speculating that the reasons the independents and greens did so well is because clearly the majority want action on climate change.
Although there were are few who voted for that reason, i think it was simply a vote against both parties and Labor are the ones who reaped the benefits of the preference system.
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Post by kenkong on May 25, 2022 12:40:17 GMT 8
hell, Fydenberg didn't even win his own seat so it wouldn't have made any difference. The Change was on and it is a fact of life when times are tough people want change and will always blame the existing government. All the pundits though are speculating that the reasons the independents and greens did so well is because clearly the majority want action on climate change. Although there were are few who voted for that reason, i think it was simply a vote against both parties and Labor are the ones who reaped the benefits of the preference system. There are also many pundits who are saying the Libs or Coalition are finished and will be in the wilderness for many years... Well guess what, they said the same about Labor last election. If Albo can be PM, Mr Potato Head can also be PM. It is going to be a wild ride for Albo for the next 3 years and i could barely make out who was who when he was photographed with Biden yesterday. I'm not understanding this whole times are tough bit. Record low unemployment, record low interest rates, tons and tons of cash splashed around during covid, so much so that you had unemployed people sitting at home getting paid nearly $1k a week.... What's tough about these times?
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Post by Peter on May 25, 2022 13:57:27 GMT 8
hell, Fydenberg didn't even win his own seat so it wouldn't have made any difference. The Change was on and it is a fact of life when times are tough people want change and will always blame the existing government. All the pundits though are speculating that the reasons the independents and greens did so well is because clearly the majority want action on climate change. Although there were are few who voted for that reason, i think it was simply a vote against both parties and Labor are the ones who reaped the benefits of the preference system. There are also many pundits who are saying the Libs or Coalition are finished and will be in the wilderness for many years... Well guess what, they said the same about Labor last election. If Albo can be PM, Mr Potato Head can also be PM. It is going to be a wild ride for Albo for the next 3 years and i could barely make out who was who when he was photographed with Biden yesterday. I'm not understanding this whole times are tough bit. Record low unemployment, record low interest rates, tons and tons of cash splashed around during covid, so much so that you had unemployed people sitting at home getting paid nearly $1k a week.... What's tough about these times? People think times are tough for them becasue their friends are buying high end cars and going on great holidays overseas. See Nealo. WOW But, what most dont understand is that people have saved for 3 years and now can actually do stuff. Those that didnt save anything, think times are tough for them
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Post by DropBear on May 25, 2022 14:07:05 GMT 8
I'm not understanding this whole times are tough bit. Record low unemployment, record low interest rates, tons and tons of cash splashed around during covid, so much so that you had unemployed people sitting at home getting paid nearly $1k a week.... What's tough about these times? Then you need to get out more and stop reading the click-bait media
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Post by kenkong on May 25, 2022 15:35:09 GMT 8
I'm not understanding this whole times are tough bit. Record low unemployment, record low interest rates, tons and tons of cash splashed around during covid, so much so that you had unemployed people sitting at home getting paid nearly $1k a week.... What's tough about these times? Then you need to get out more and stop reading the click-bait media No need for click bait, if u can't get a job at the moment you are a potato.
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Post by prince on May 25, 2022 16:13:33 GMT 8
hell, Fydenberg didn't even win his own seat so it wouldn't have made any difference. The Change was on and it is a fact of life when times are tough people want change and will always blame the existing government. All the pundits though are speculating that the reasons the independents and greens did so well is because clearly the majority want action on climate change. Although there were are few who voted for that reason, i think it was simply a vote against both parties and Labor are the ones who reaped the benefits of the preference system. There are also many pundits who are saying the Libs or Coalition are finished and will be in the wilderness for many years... Well guess what, they said the same about Labor last election. If Albo can be PM, Mr Potato Head can also be PM. It is going to be a wild ride for Albo for the next 3 years and i could barely make out who was who when he was photographed with Biden yesterday. I'm not understanding this whole times are tough bit. Record low unemployment, record low interest rates, tons and tons of cash splashed around during covid, so much so that you had unemployed people sitting at home getting paid nearly $1k a week.... What's tough about these times? I think its the cost of housing, rents, lack of housing in general, cost of fuel, cost of groceries. People dont necessarily see the 'good' things and want a quick fix which I think they are led to believe Albo can provide. There is no quick fix of course and these issues are worldwide.
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Post by IronJimbo on May 26, 2022 8:03:50 GMT 8
I'm not understanding this whole times are tough bit. Record low unemployment, record low interest rates, tons and tons of cash splashed around during covid, so much so that you had unemployed people sitting at home getting paid nearly $1k a week.... What's tough about these times? Not a lot. Which is why I think a third factor other than climate change and cost of living was in play - complacency
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Post by DropBear on May 26, 2022 11:38:56 GMT 8
I'm not understanding this whole times are tough bit. Record low unemployment, record low interest rates, tons and tons of cash splashed around during covid, so much so that you had unemployed people sitting at home getting paid nearly $1k a week.... What's tough about these times? Not a lot. Which is why I think a third factor other than climate change and cost of living was in play - complacency Well "not a lot" if you happen to fit into those relatively small demographics that happen to benefit from this particular list of events. Which pretty much seem to include the following: 1. People with a mortgage. 2. People with stupid amounts of wealth BTW: No idea where you get the $1000 a week figure from Job Seeker
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Post by kenkong on May 26, 2022 17:46:24 GMT 8
Not a lot. Which is why I think a third factor other than climate change and cost of living was in play - complacency Well "not a lot" if you happen to fit into those relatively small demographics that happen to benefit from this particular list of events. Which pretty much seem to include the following: 1. People with a mortgage. 2. People with stupid amounts of wealth BTW: No idea where you get the $1000 a week figure from Job Seeker Normal people were getting up to $750 a week during covid, and if you were a sole trader like most Uber drivers are you were getting $2,800 a week automatically!! I know this because I have a mate in Melb who drives ubers in the side. So he was working full time and getting paid but because he could show he lost work as a result of the lockdowns he got $2,800 on top. Money was being thrown around like dollar bills at a Vegas strip club by the government and people wonder why we have inflation... "Businesses with no payroll or payroll between $650,000 will receive payments of $2800 per week." www.smartcompany.com.au/coronavirus/stimulus/covid-19-support-payments-victoria-small-businesses/
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Post by Peter on May 26, 2022 18:12:44 GMT 8
I’m sick reading that
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Post by kenkong on May 26, 2022 18:16:56 GMT 8
Yep, wasn't even means tested. So combined with his normal weekly salary he was taking home nearly $5k A WEEK clear....our tax dollars hard at work.
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Post by DropBear on May 27, 2022 5:41:09 GMT 8
Normal people were getting up to $750 a week during covid, and if you were a sole trader like most Uber drivers are you were getting $2,800 a week automatically!! I know this because I have a mate in Melb who drives ubers in the side. So he was working full time and getting paid but because he could show he lost work as a result of the lockdowns he got $2,800 on top. Money was being thrown around like dollar bills at a Vegas strip club by the government and people wonder why we have inflation... "Businesses with no payroll or payroll between $650,000 will receive payments of $2800 per week." www.smartcompany.com.au/coronavirus/stimulus/covid-19-support-payments-victoria-small-businesses/Just out of interest did you actually look at the Government website for the full details or just take the link you posted at face value (despite the typos)?
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Post by kenkong on May 27, 2022 6:23:28 GMT 8
Normal people were getting up to $750 a week during covid, and if you were a sole trader like most Uber drivers are you were getting $2,800 a week automatically!! I know this because I have a mate in Melb who drives ubers in the side. So he was working full time and getting paid but because he could show he lost work as a result of the lockdowns he got $2,800 on top. Money was being thrown around like dollar bills at a Vegas strip club by the government and people wonder why we have inflation... "Businesses with no payroll or payroll between $650,000 will receive payments of $2800 per week." www.smartcompany.com.au/coronavirus/stimulus/covid-19-support-payments-victoria-small-businesses/Just out of interest did you actually look at the Government website for the full details or just take the link you posted at face value (despite the typos)? Yes, it's all listed there also. So what's your point muppet, that you continue to show you have NFI...? You do realise states had different covid relief payments, it wasn't just federal?
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Post by DropBear on May 27, 2022 6:27:24 GMT 8
Just out of interest did you actually look at the Government website for the full details or just take the link you posted at face value (despite the typos)? Yes, it's all listed there also. So what's your point muppet, that you continue to show you have NFI...? You do realise states had different covid relief payments, it wasn't just federal? Just that everything I looked at said it was a $2800 topup payment (not per week)...and only if you were eligible for the initial payments.
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Post by kenkong on May 27, 2022 6:36:13 GMT 8
Yes, it's all listed there also. So what's your point muppet, that you continue to show you have NFI...? You do realise states had different covid relief payments, it wasn't just federal? Just that everything I looked at said it was a $2800 topup payment (not per week)...and only if you were eligible for the initial payments. You must not have looked very hard.. "More than 110,000 businesses in metropolitan Melbourne will automatically receive payments of $5,600 ($2,800 per week) through a $625 million injection." business.vic.gov.au/news-and-updates/2021/more-support-for-melbourne-businesses-19-august-2021Anyway trust me it's correct. When my mate told me about it I thought he was full of sh!t until I looked it up. The government were in full panic mode and were throwing cash around like crazy. Easy to keep people locked up when you are paying them thousands of dollars to sit on the couch..
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Post by DropBear on May 27, 2022 6:40:54 GMT 8
Just that everything I looked at said it was a $2800 topup payment (not per week)...and only if you were eligible for the initial payments. You must not have looked very hard.. "More than 110,000 businesses in metropolitan Melbourne will automatically receive payments of $5,600 ($2,800 per week) through a $625 million injection." business.vic.gov.au/news-and-updates/2021/more-support-for-melbourne-businesses-19-august-2021Anyway trust me it's correct. When my mate told me about it I thought he was full of sh!t until I looked it up. The government were in full panic mode and were throwing cash around like crazy. Easy to keep people locked up when you are paying them thousands of dollars to sit on the couch.. For 2 whole weeks ... woohoo
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Post by kenkong on May 27, 2022 8:23:34 GMT 8
You must not have looked very hard.. "More than 110,000 businesses in metropolitan Melbourne will automatically receive payments of $5,600 ($2,800 per week) through a $625 million injection." business.vic.gov.au/news-and-updates/2021/more-support-for-melbourne-businesses-19-august-2021Anyway trust me it's correct. When my mate told me about it I thought he was full of sh!t until I looked it up. The government were in full panic mode and were throwing cash around like crazy. Easy to keep people locked up when you are paying them thousands of dollars to sit on the couch.. For 2 whole weeks ... woohoo Keep taking the Ls, payments were available between June and September... But you keep doing you...
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Post by flanman on May 29, 2022 17:48:34 GMT 8
I am still inputting declaration votes and postal votes. A lot of counting going on as well.
FM
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