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Post by DropBear on Feb 12, 2022 13:03:46 GMT 8
In an attempt to keep the election out of the Covid thread Nope. The only chance libs have in this election would be if they dump Scomo asap. thats just media hype. They would love a spill. Scomo is an excellent campaigner, and all he really has to ask Albo is what's the plan for Coal and what will happen to the workers at those plants and mines, most of whom are Union members. Then he can ask, how Albo would fix the age care 'crisis', what Albo will do for any future covid outbreaks, where does Albo stand in regards to China, etc.... Albo is a complete mystery. Which, in a land overflowing with out of touch politicians telling us what to think and how to act is why Albo will win the next election. Assuming he keeps his options open and his mouth shut, I made a similar statement about Bill Shorten last election and he proved me completely correct. My local seat will be interesting. The sitting Liberal member was never going to win preselection due to "inappropriate actions toward women" and has "retired". In a field of 5, preselection was won by the only male who hinself has been accused in the past of "fat shaming" women. The Chair of the preselection committee resigned in protest. It'll be close but I suspect the White middle aged anglo-saxon male will win the seat over a well credentialed and experienced labor candidate who is playing both the Female and First Nation cards. The recent influx of retirees to the area will see to that.
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Post by prince on Feb 12, 2022 14:41:39 GMT 8
He does keep his options open for sure, hence the nickname Each Way Albo. Dont get me wrong, I think a change in government since its been so long isn't a bad thing. I just think Albo is a fake and it will be found out during the campaign
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Post by plazbot on Feb 12, 2022 16:07:02 GMT 8
How on earth are Albo and Scomo the top two options out of an entire country?
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Post by dalai on Feb 12, 2022 16:55:02 GMT 8
How on earth are Albo and Scomo the top two options out of an entire country? Politicians in general. Shouldn't have to vote based on who you hate less! I fill my votes in reverse order filling in all the boxes from worst to less worse...
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Post by DropBear on Feb 12, 2022 19:09:14 GMT 8
How on earth are Albo and Scomo the top two options out of an entire country? Simple answer.... Those with real talent (and sometimes even those without it) are in the private sector or lobby groups earning 7 figure salaries but without the media scrutiny and general crap they receive in public life.
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Post by Peter on Feb 12, 2022 19:09:57 GMT 8
How on earth are Albo and Scomo the top two options out of an entire country? Its certainly Not the Winter Olympics. at least the news has stopped leading with farking Covid numbers every night.
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Post by BogFrog on Feb 12, 2022 19:15:57 GMT 8
He does keep his options open for sure, hence the nickname Each Way Albo. Dont get me wrong, I think a change in government since its been so long isn't a bad thing. I just think Albo is a fake and it will be found out during the campaign why do you think he's fake? Curious as to why people "feel" or "think" certain ways about polling... Each way Albo? I hadn't heard that one. Do you have any examples why he is called that?
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Post by Peter on Feb 12, 2022 19:25:46 GMT 8
He does keep his options open for sure, hence the nickname Each Way Albo. Dont get me wrong, I think a change in government since its been so long isn't a bad thing. I just think Albo is a fake and it will be found out during the campaign why do you think he's fake? Curious as to why people "feel" or "think" certain ways about polling... Each way Albo? I hadn't heard that one. Do you have any examples why he is called that? Everything seems scripted out of albo. whereas Scomo seems to plan nothing. id preferred someone like Howard or Rudd. Both always seem to have thought out what they were always going to say, but made it feel off the cuff.
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Post by IronJimbo on Feb 12, 2022 20:41:19 GMT 8
He does keep his options open for sure, hence the nickname Each Way Albo. Dont get me wrong, I think a change in government since its been so long isn't a bad thing. I just think Albo is a fake and it will be found out during the campaign Change for the sake of change itself is how we got Rudd/Gillard...
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Post by prince on Feb 13, 2022 3:23:40 GMT 8
He does keep his options open for sure, hence the nickname Each Way Albo. Dont get me wrong, I think a change in government since its been so long isn't a bad thing. I just think Albo is a fake and it will be found out during the campaign why do you think he's fake? Curious as to why people "feel" or "think" certain ways about polling... Each way Albo? I hadn't heard that one. Do you have any examples why he is called that? The phrase ‘Each Way’ Albo was coined by sky news, as Albo sits on the fence in regards to a lot of issues, hence why the other criticism is that no one actually knows what he stands for. As I said, labours huge problem is that they don’t support fossil fuel, and have set fairly Decent size targets for emission reduction however, where does that leave there base of Union members which can’t be underestimated. Albo has followed the media in the criticism of Scomo yet has not shown any alternative policies over any of these criticisms I acknowledge it’s the role of an opposition to do this, however eventually he will Need to come clean. At the moment it’s just all about personally bashing Scomo and little bashing the liberal policies with some facts and alternative policies. Hence the polling
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Post by DropBear on Feb 13, 2022 7:07:48 GMT 8
Albo has followed the media in the criticism of Scomo yet has not shown any alternative policies over any of these criticisms I acknowledge it’s the role of an opposition to do this, however eventually he will Need to come clean. At the moment it’s just all about personally bashing Scomo and little bashing the liberal policies with some facts and alternative policies. Hence the polling Welcome to 21st century earth and Australian politics in general. This has been the case from both sides of the political divide for quite some time now. Its been very big on political point scoring and very small on getting the job done and making Australia the country it should be. Probably why politicians rated at #30 (of 30) in a recent list of most trusted professions. That puts politicians behind such trusted professions as CEOs(25), social media producers(Influencers)(26), Delivery Drivers (28) and Journalists(29).
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Post by Slunnie on Feb 13, 2022 12:33:28 GMT 8
Albo has followed the media in the criticism of Scomo yet has not shown any alternative policies over any of these criticisms I acknowledge it’s the role of an opposition to do this, however eventually he will Need to come clean. At the moment it’s just all about personally bashing Scomo and little bashing the liberal policies with some facts and alternative policies. Hence the polling When the roles were reversed it was exactly the same. There isn't anything novel going on here.
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Post by Peter on Feb 13, 2022 13:03:15 GMT 8
I personally thought tony abbott was an awesome opposition leader.
However one of the worst prime ministers.
Okay, he was better than Scomo.
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Post by IronJimbo on Feb 13, 2022 18:37:30 GMT 8
Labor's biggest problem has been building for quite some time now - identity and relevance
Back in the Hawke/Keating era they were seen as the natural home of the working class, but as private sector unionism fell away a lot of generational Labor voters became Howard's battlers
Now they're trying to hang on to inner city seats by trying to out-green the Greens, while trying to convince less affluent voters who get hurt by Green policies they there still on their side
They play a big personal game, but as we saw last time that can backfire
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Post by prince on Feb 14, 2022 2:05:28 GMT 8
Albo has followed the media in the criticism of Scomo yet has not shown any alternative policies over any of these criticisms I acknowledge it’s the role of an opposition to do this, however eventually he will Need to come clean. At the moment it’s just all about personally bashing Scomo and little bashing the liberal policies with some facts and alternative policies. Hence the polling When the roles were reversed it was exactly the same. There isn't anything novel going on here. Yeah there is. The criticism on a personal level is also coming from the media on a level I have never seen and to Scomos credit, he just takes it in his stride. I am looking forward to the campaign to begin in earnest as it will give the opportunity for Albo to put up or shut up. He won’t get the job by playing the man. People are too smart for that.
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Post by sammyb on Feb 15, 2022 9:12:08 GMT 8
Albo lead Labor party.
Scomo and Liberal are not required.
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Post by sammyb on Feb 15, 2022 9:15:15 GMT 8
why do you think he's fake? Curious as to why people "feel" or "think" certain ways about polling... Each way Albo? I hadn't heard that one. Do you have any examples why he is called that? Everything seems scripted out of albo. whereas Scomo seems to plan nothing. id preferred someone like Howard or Rudd. Both always seem to have thought out what they were always going to say, but made it feel off the cuff. His "lack of a plan" is his plan. Like Lionel Sanders
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Post by sammyb on Feb 15, 2022 9:17:59 GMT 8
Albo has followed the media in the criticism of Scomo yet has not shown any alternative policies over any of these criticisms I acknowledge it’s the role of an opposition to do this, however eventually he will Need to come clean. At the moment it’s just all about personally bashing Scomo and little bashing the liberal policies with some facts and alternative policies. Hence the polling Delivery Drivers (28) Like Posties....? Asking for a friend
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Post by DropBear on Feb 15, 2022 9:30:06 GMT 8
Like Posties....? Asking for a friend Posties wern't listed. On the whole I'd suggest the Posties do a good job. Although personally I'm trying to work out how it takes a small parcel 13 days to get from Sydney to Brisbane but it only takes a letter 3 days to make the same journey.
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Post by Peter on Feb 15, 2022 11:14:29 GMT 8
Everything seems scripted out of albo. whereas Scomo seems to plan nothing. id preferred someone like Howard or Rudd. Both always seem to have thought out what they were always going to say, but made it feel off the cuff. His "lack of a plan" is his plan. Like Lionel Sanders Haha.
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Post by dalai on Feb 15, 2022 12:14:08 GMT 8
Like Posties....? Asking for a friend Posties are generally okay. It's the delivery drivers that take the cake! From my front door security camera, I reckon they have a competition to see who can Frisbee the packages furthest distance from the door onto the doorstep. Delivery golf!
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Post by sammyb on Feb 15, 2022 13:19:27 GMT 8
Like Posties....? Asking for a friend Posties wern't listed. On the whole I'd suggest the Posties do a good job. Although personally I'm trying to work out how it takes a small parcel 13 days to get from Sydney to Brisbane but it only takes a letter 3 days to make the same journey. There's more humans in the parcel chain at the moment. Letters go through machines from the time they get put in the red post boxes to the moment we sort them into our rounds. Those machines do not get effected by covid 👌✌️👍
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Post by DropBear on Feb 15, 2022 13:37:28 GMT 8
Posties wern't listed. On the whole I'd suggest the Posties do a good job. Although personally I'm trying to work out how it takes a small parcel 13 days to get from Sydney to Brisbane but it only takes a letter 3 days to make the same journey. There's more humans in the parcel chain at the moment. Letters go through machines from the time they get put in the red post boxes to the moment we sort them into our rounds. Those machines do not get effected by covid 👌✌️👍 Ahh that might explain why I had a parcel once go (according to the tracking) from Sydney to another part of Sydney, back to the original Sydney office to Brisbane to Cairns to "Unable to deliver" to be delivered here the day after the previous update and 3 weeks after I ordered it.
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Post by sammyb on Feb 15, 2022 17:10:46 GMT 8
There's more humans in the parcel chain at the moment. Letters go through machines from the time they get put in the red post boxes to the moment we sort them into our rounds. Those machines do not get effected by covid 👌✌️👍 Ahh that might explain why I had a parcel once go (according to the tracking) from Sydney to another part of Sydney, back to the original Sydney office to Brisbane to Cairns to "Unable to deliver" to be delivered here the day after the previous update and 3 weeks after I ordered it. Yeah man. The struggle is real now. Short staffed like nothing else plus covid plus inexperienced staff equals a sh!t experience for the customer. It's bloody frustrating.
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Post by Slunnie on Feb 15, 2022 20:31:01 GMT 8
When the roles were reversed it was exactly the same. There isn't anything novel going on here. Yeah there is. The criticism on a personal level is also coming from the media on a level I have never seen and to Scomos credit, he just takes it in his stride. I am looking forward to the campaign to begin in earnest as it will give the opportunity for Albo to put up or shut up. He won’t get the job by playing the man. People are too smart for that. Nah, Scomo has copped nothing compared to others in the past. We've seen plenty of pollies play the man, it's text book for the Liberals as well and the people aren't at all too smart for that if history is any guide. Blue ribbon voters are irrelevant anyway, its the swingers that will make the decision and they make it based on who the media happen to like that year.
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Post by IronJimbo on Feb 16, 2022 6:45:57 GMT 8
Nah, Scomo has copped nothing compared to others in the past. I assume you're referring to the non-stop barrage of vitriol hurled at Tony Abbott prior to and during his tenure? And your claim that personal attacks mostly come from the Liberals is fanciful at best- the open hatred displayed by the Greens and their supporters towards anyone who disagrees with them is on another level entirely
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Post by DropBear on Feb 16, 2022 7:44:03 GMT 8
Nah, Scomo has copped nothing compared to others in the past. I assume you're referring to the non-stop barrage of vitriol hurled at Tony Abbott prior to and during his tenure? And your claim that personal attacks mostly come from the Liberals is fanciful at best- the open hatred displayed by the Greens and their supporters towards anyone who disagrees with them is on another level entirely Speaking about the Greens and that election issue known as Global Warming... Has anybody else noticed the push from state governments to "curtail" solar generation from household solar panels. WA introduced it last year and SA have just approved it. Basically it means that the government can turn off your solar power generation to prevent the overload of the electrical system. The downside from the household perspective is that it forces the household to buy electricity from the grid instead of utilising the free(?) electricity generated from the solar panels on the roof that you spent your hard earned $$$ on so you didn't have to buy electricity from the grid. Yes as a country we're serious about using alternative energy sources.
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Post by IronJimbo on Feb 16, 2022 8:30:00 GMT 8
I assume you're referring to the non-stop barrage of vitriol hurled at Tony Abbott prior to and during his tenure? And your claim that personal attacks mostly come from the Liberals is fanciful at best- the open hatred displayed by the Greens and their supporters towards anyone who disagrees with them is on another level entirely Speaking about the Greens and that election issue known as Global Warming... Has anybody else noticed the push from state governments to "curtail" solar generation from household solar panels. WA introduced it last year and SA have just approved it. Basically it means that the government can turn off your solar power generation to prevent the overload of the electrical system. The downside from the household perspective is that it forces the household to buy electricity from the grid instead of utilising the free(?) electricity generated from the solar panels on the roof that you spent your hard earned $$$ on so you didn't have to buy electricity from the grid. Yes as a country we're serious about using alternative energy sources. If we were serious about alternative 'clean' energy sources we wouldn't be the only leading country with a pathological fear of nuclear energy
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Post by DropBear on Feb 16, 2022 8:51:09 GMT 8
If we were serious about alternative 'clean' energy sources we wouldn't be the only leading country with a pathological fear of nuclear energy Yes I'm sure the whole of western Europe were happy the Ukraine was using clean nuclear energy. And parts of Japan And parts of the US and parts of the UK and....
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Post by IronJimbo on Feb 16, 2022 9:10:40 GMT 8
If we were serious about alternative 'clean' energy sources we wouldn't be the only leading country with a pathological fear of nuclear energy Yes I'm sure the whole of western Europe were happy the Ukraine was using clean nuclear energy. And parts of Japan And parts of the US and parts of the UK and.... Did you intend to provide an example of my point, or did it just turn out that way? Nuclear energy has developed significantly since a certain poorly conducted experiment in an out of date soviet reactor in 1986 And notwithstanding the fact that the reactor in Fukushima withstood an earthquake twice as strong as it was designed for, Australia is far more geologically stable than Japan
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