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Post by Peter on Aug 23, 2021 10:53:59 GMT 8
So just decided because Kona wasnt going to be on, to come and race Copenhagen. Smashed the course record to win. Sanders second. The 2021 IRONMAN Copenhagen podium! 🥇 Cameron Wurf 7:46:06 🥈 Lionel Sanders +03:19 🥉 Henrik Goesch +06:04 fb.watch/7yNQWtxYnG/
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Post by Peter on Aug 23, 2021 10:56:02 GMT 8
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Post by blobby on Aug 23, 2021 11:34:40 GMT 8
Very impressive, and also for Lionel, being a second IM in a short timeframe.
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Post by andrewearlwood on Aug 23, 2021 12:56:20 GMT 8
Cam messaged Lionel last weekend telling him that he was coming to Copenhagen to take over Sanders coaching, not to race. So, I’m guessing that Cam decided to race Copenhagen in advance of the Kona cancellation rumours, well before the announcement. He’s pretty cagey about up coming races, but usually likes to race fairly often and it’s been 7 weeks since Andorra 70.3. During that period he’s upped the triathlon specific training - which was only a maintained phase as he raced for Ineous during the northern spring on the pro tour - up to a typical 17-20km swimming / 400-500km cycling (all of that climbing training with the likes of Bernal/Carapez/Porte etc - all slow aerobic stuff with lots of vertical metres) / 7 x 100km run weeks in a row. So he was ‘due’ for a race. What was surprising yesterday was his bike split - he’s done zero specific ironman TT training thus far, so now that Kona has been postponed I think we can expect him to target IM Barcelona in 7 weeks with a lot more specific training under his belt, now that he’s done the work over summer to build that massive aerobic engine: I reckon he’ll also race Nice in a fortnight as a ‘training day’ as well. It wouldn’t surprise me if he won both, and broke the ‘M Dot’ Ironman world record in Barcelona (but probably not threaten Jan’s distance record). It was a good run by Lionel yesterday. Only blew up with 5km to go. So should actually run a decent 42.2km later in the year - either at Wisconsin or Arizona. One last thing: Cam has a beautiful running styles- he looked the freshest of all the top contenders on the run - also looked to be the fastest, even when he clearly wasn’t. I think with a few more months of actual Tri training he should be good for a low 2:40ish split. Maybe even a 2:45-46 in Kona next February (which should be pretty mild as it is their winter).
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Post by Peter on Aug 23, 2021 12:58:15 GMT 8
Any idea of the shoes he was using? Wurf?
Given his race number was in the 50’s. It was a very late decision to race. Lionel was about 5 or 6.
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Post by andrewearlwood on Aug 23, 2021 13:11:14 GMT 8
Any idea of the shoes he was using? Wurf? Given his race number was in the 50’s. It was a very late decision to race. Lionel was about 5 or 6. Blumenthal was to race, but when WTC offered him a Kona slot, he could switch to race the WTS final - which he won to secure both the Olympic and world title in the same year. I guess this opened up a slot for Cam. He was wearing Nike I think
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Post by andrewearlwood on Oct 1, 2021 8:21:44 GMT 8
Paris Roubaix this Sunday.
He’s also been ticking over the swimming (a 40km swim week a few weeks ago and 10-15km per week since then) and running (95km two weeks ago, upon to 65km per week since) in addition to racing once a week in the Autumn classics in Belgium.
Now that there are two Ironman world championships next year he has to qualify of one of them (he can carry over his 2020 KQ to one but nothing both). Given that there are only 5 months between championships I think he’ll want to secure his Kona slot this year: I’m guessing either IM Majorca next week (if its a pro race, dunno) or IM Arizona next month (which would allow him to shift to his LA winter base and lay down a proper month of specific IM training). We shall see.
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Post by andrewearlwood on Oct 1, 2021 8:25:29 GMT 8
Paris Roubaix this Sunday. He’s also been ticking over the swimming (a 40km swim week a few weeks ago and 10-15km per week since then) and running (95km two weeks ago, upon to 65km per week since) in addition to racing once a week in the Autumn classics in Belgium. Now that there are two Ironman world championships next year he has to qualify of one of them (he can carry over his 2020 KQ to one but nothing both). Given that there are only 5 months between championships I think he’ll want to secure his Kona slot this year: I’m guessing either IM Majorca next week (if its a pro race, dunno) or IM Arizona next month (which would allow him to shift to his LA winter base and lay down a proper month of specific IM training). We shall see. Actually, he’s not on Ineous’s start list even though he was a key domestique for the two lead in races. His starva has comments from some training buddies wishing him good luck for Sunday. Maybe he was a late scratching. Maybe he’s racing IM Barcelona this Sunday. Who knows?
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Post by andrewearlwood on Oct 1, 2021 8:34:38 GMT 8
Paris Roubaix this Sunday. He’s also been ticking over the swimming (a 40km swim week a few weeks ago and 10-15km per week since then) and running (95km two weeks ago, upon to 65km per week since) in addition to racing once a week in the Autumn classics in Belgium. Now that there are two Ironman world championships next year he has to qualify of one of them (he can carry over his 2020 KQ to one but nothing both). Given that there are only 5 months between championships I think he’ll want to secure his Kona slot this year: I’m guessing either IM Majorca next week (if its a pro race, dunno) or IM Arizona next month (which would allow him to shift to his LA winter base and lay down a proper month of specific IM training). We shall see. Actually, he’s not on Ineous’s start list even though he was a key domestique for the two lead in races. His starva has comments from some training buddies wishing him good luck for Sunday. Maybe he was a late scratching. Maybe he’s racing IM Barcelona this Sunday. Who knows? Ah, it makes sense now: he’s racing with Richie in Italy this weekend: www.examiner.com.au/story/7452430/tassie-trio-porte-wurf-and-frain-taking-europe-by-storm/
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Post by Peter on Oct 1, 2021 13:47:51 GMT 8
See he is also suggesting that the women get to start first at one of the world championships next year.
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Post by andrewearlwood on Oct 3, 2021 11:17:52 GMT 8
Coppa Bernocchi on Monday. Yesterday he did the first 160km of mule work for the team and then ran 20km back to the hotel bang on 4min/km. Did the same thing last Wednesday. In between these twice weekly bricks he’s also doing 4km swim sessions every other day. He’s clearly got some end of season triathlon in mind (now that Kona in February has been cancelled). I wonder what it is?
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Post by Peter on Oct 3, 2021 15:59:05 GMT 8
IRONMAN Mallorca? Cozumel? Blum is doing it. He might go there to prove a point.
Can’t imagine him doing California
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Post by andrewearlwood on Oct 29, 2021 20:26:36 GMT 8
Cam is on the start list for Cozumel. So is Seb (who is also on the start list for South Africa on the same day, so who knows).
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Post by andrewearlwood on Dec 1, 2021 17:46:09 GMT 8
Latest interview with Babbit:
My takeouts:
1. No IM St George WC next May (probably);
2. Still on the Ineous roster. Expects to be very busy road racing until May and wont jump back into an IM WC without doing the work first;
3. Will try to qualify for Kona in the northern summer somewhere. Still keen to do well there;
4. Running a straight marathon next weekend in Sacramento - wants to beat his IM marathon PB (2:45 in Italy);
5. Heading back to Majorca straight away for the first team training camp after that marathon;
6. 2.35 IM marathons doesn’t surprise him, only that it has taken so long for the standard to get to that level;
7. Respects Lionel, but doesn’t think that he’s necessarily the man.
Frankly I’m stunned that he's signed up for another season of being an Ineous domestique bitch: the pay may be ok, but the money in triathlon is growing and it seems he has Ineous as a personal sponsor for triathlon now. He turns 39 next year (August) and he’s got two perfect opportunities to challenge a podium - or better - in an Ironman WC before he’s 40. He’s wasting his talent doing a job that a hundred guys in the pro peloton can do (and its not even likely that he’ll get a start in a grand tour next year anyway).
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Post by andrewearlwood on Dec 5, 2021 7:00:05 GMT 8
So, after logging a very impressive track session in Oakland, California last Tuesday and what appeared to be a taper run on Thursday … my Strava feed shows Wurf to be back in Andorra overnight and putting in a 120km ride through the mountains, when he was meant to be in Sacramento starting a marathon later today. Typical Wurf, says one thing, then at the last minute pops up and does something completely different.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2021 7:55:03 GMT 8
So, after logging a very impressive track session in Oakland, California last Tuesday and what appeared to be a taper run on Thursday … my Strava feed shows Wurf to be back in Andorra overnight and putting in a 120km ride through the mountains, when he was meant to be in Sacramento starting a marathon later today. Typical Wurf, says one thing, then at the last minute pops up and does something completely different. It's good for avoiding accountability and actually having to deliver on what he says
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Post by Ironnerd on Dec 5, 2021 9:41:25 GMT 8
So, after logging a very impressive track session in Oakland, California last Tuesday and what appeared to be a taper run on Thursday … my Strava feed shows Wurf to be back in Andorra overnight and putting in a 120km ride through the mountains, when he was meant to be in Sacramento starting a marathon later today. Typical Wurf, says one thing, then at the last minute pops up and does something completely different. It's good for avoiding accountability and actually having to deliver on what he says With attributes like that he would make a great politician.
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Post by andrewearlwood on Dec 5, 2021 9:52:15 GMT 8
So, after logging a very impressive track session in Oakland, California last Tuesday and what appeared to be a taper run on Thursday … my Strava feed shows Wurf to be back in Andorra overnight and putting in a 120km ride through the mountains, when he was meant to be in Sacramento starting a marathon later today. Typical Wurf, says one thing, then at the last minute pops up and does something completely different. It's good for avoiding accountability and actually having to deliver on what he says I don’t expect more of you BB, but that’s one interpretation, but who exactly is Cam avoiding accountability to? His sponsors, or team? Or just someone on the interwebby thingo that was mildly curious as to what he’d be able to lay down in a straight marathon (which in no way would form an actual KPI for either his team or sponsors). It just seems odd. He just did three 100km+ run weeks, the highlights of which included running 40.2km in the Miami heat in 2:38hrs, three very strong track sessions, a 5km PB of 16:13 in Maryland THEN shifting to central California for his last track workout (which if you look at his strava feed was arguably the most impressive run session he’s done all year), then a 7km taper run and out of nowhere. Boom. His in Andorra. There may be a number of explanations for that, but I suspect fearing accountability and delivery doesn’t seem to be likley: not after he’s done 3 ironman races this year, remembering that the first one in Giora was without any training in May, the second one in Copenhagen without any taper and the third was only 8 days after he’d just done 5 separate one day races in Belgium and Italy in the span of about a week. This guy doesn’t have any record of hiding, so why would he avoid doing a marathon ‘for laughs’ now? I wonder if his Strava feed has just randomly added an old workout that Garmin had not uploaded from earlier in the year? I guess we’ll find out tomorrow if his strava shows him running 42.2km in California 😂
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2021 10:17:49 GMT 8
It's good for avoiding accountability and actually having to deliver on what he says I don’t expect more of you BB, but that’s one interpretation, but who exactly is Cam avoiding accountability to? His sponsors, or team? Or just someone on the interwebby thingo that was mildly curious as to what he’d be able to lay down in a straight marathon (which in no way would form an actual KPI for either his team or sponsors). It just seems odd. He just did three 100km+ run weeks, the highlights of which included running 40.2km in the Miami heat in 2:38hrs, three very strong track sessions, a 5km PB of 16:13 in Maryland THEN shifting to central California for his last track workout (which if you look at his strava feed was arguably the most impressive run session he’s done all year), then a 7km taper run and out of nowhere. Boom. His in Andorra. There may be a number of explanations for that, but I suspect fearing accountability and delivery doesn’t seem to be likley: not after he’s done 3 ironman races this year, remembering that the first one in Giora was without any training in May, the second one in Copenhagen without any taper and the third was only 8 days after he’d just done 5 separate one day races in Belgium and Italy in the span of about a week. This guy doesn’t have any record of hiding, so why would he avoid doing a marathon ‘for laughs’ now? I wonder if his Strava feed has just randomly added an old workout that Garmin had not uploaded from earlier in the year? I guess we’ll find out tomorrow if his strava shows him running 42.2km in California 😂 Himself, he was going to do Cozumel, wonder why he decided against that? Maybe he saw how good the opposition was.
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Post by andrewearlwood on Dec 5, 2021 10:24:16 GMT 8
I don’t expect more of you BB, but that’s one interpretation, but who exactly is Cam avoiding accountability to? His sponsors, or team? Or just someone on the interwebby thingo that was mildly curious as to what he’d be able to lay down in a straight marathon (which in no way would form an actual KPI for either his team or sponsors). It just seems odd. He just did three 100km+ run weeks, the highlights of which included running 40.2km in the Miami heat in 2:38hrs, three very strong track sessions, a 5km PB of 16:13 in Maryland THEN shifting to central California for his last track workout (which if you look at his strava feed was arguably the most impressive run session he’s done all year), then a 7km taper run and out of nowhere. Boom. His in Andorra. There may be a number of explanations for that, but I suspect fearing accountability and delivery doesn’t seem to be likley: not after he’s done 3 ironman races this year, remembering that the first one in Giora was without any training in May, the second one in Copenhagen without any taper and the third was only 8 days after he’d just done 5 separate one day races in Belgium and Italy in the span of about a week. This guy doesn’t have any record of hiding, so why would he avoid doing a marathon ‘for laughs’ now? I wonder if his Strava feed has just randomly added an old workout that Garmin had not uploaded from earlier in the year? I guess we’ll find out tomorrow if his strava shows him running 42.2km in California 😂 Himself, he was going to do Cozumel, wonder why he decided against that? Maybe he saw how good the opposition was. Sure, he had entered Cozumel, as did Kienle, but like Seb I think that was just keeping his options open. It is obvious now from the sort of training he did since pulling out of Florida that he had shut up shop for IM racing - in fact he told Babbitt that he felt in the end that he’d done one to many races. Besides, I don’t think he ever came out publicly and said he was committed to Cozumel.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2021 10:39:24 GMT 8
Entering a race is normally a commitment. He also dropped out at Florida, Factor in both races, A Norwegian who was going to beat him by quite a bit.
Iden ran 234 after biking 405, Wurf DNF after riding 404. At Cozumel KB did 402 followed by 235.
Wurf is a great athlete who probably would have won Kona had he not gone down the trash talking, over biking, Macca (he eventually worked it out) route and just focussed on racing. Now these Norweigans have shown up, his time is most likley gone, so probably makes sense to have some fun riding in a grand tour and having a crack at a marathon PB
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2021 10:40:12 GMT 8
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Post by Peter on Dec 5, 2021 13:22:50 GMT 8
Entering a race is normally a commitment. He also dropped out at Florida, Factor in both races, A Norwegian who was going to beat him by quite a bit. Iden ran 234 after biking 405, Wurf DNF after riding 404. At Cozumel KB did 402 followed by 235. Wurf is a great athlete who probably would have won Kona had he not gone down the trash talking, over biking, Macca (he eventually worked it out) route and just focussed on racing. Now these Norweigans have shown up, his time is most likley gone, so probably makes sense to have some fun riding in a grand tour and having a crack at a marathon PB Pros enter for free and have to do so a month out. I personally struggle to decide a few days out which crit I plan racing at the moment. Or which parkrun I’ll go too.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2021 13:50:57 GMT 8
sure, was trying not to upset Andrew, but Wurf decided not to show as he knew he was going to get smashed by Norway, Wurf is more a tier 2 or tier 3 field seeker, though I'm sure Andrew got excited about him beating Sanders
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Post by Ironnerd on Dec 5, 2021 16:10:23 GMT 8
Entering a race is normally a commitment. He also dropped out at Florida, Factor in both races, A Norwegian who was going to beat him by quite a bit. Iden ran 234 after biking 405, Wurf DNF after riding 404. At Cozumel KB did 402 followed by 235. Wurf is a great athlete who probably would have won Kona had he not gone down the trash talking, over biking, Macca (he eventually worked it out) route and just focussed on racing. Now these Norweigans have shown up, his time is most likley gone, so probably makes sense to have some fun riding in a grand tour and having a crack at a marathon PB Pros enter for free and have to do so a month out. I personally struggle to decide a few days out which crit I plan racing at the moment. Or which parkrun I’ll go too. Are park runs allowed in again in your plague ridden state?
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Post by andrewearlwood on Dec 5, 2021 18:20:38 GMT 8
God you can talk sh!te BB. Wurf didn't even finish the bike in Florida: the IM timing confused his chip with another athlete. He pulled out after vomiting his guts out at 70km.So that 4.04 split didn’t even belong to him. He knows he cant win against these guys (and not just the Norwegians either) unless he’s done a 100% preparation. As for why he rushed back to Andorra instead of doing that marathon - he explains this in his latest blog post: cameronwurf.blogspot.com/In short he was told to travel back to Europe asap because of the emergence of Omicron.
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Post by Peter on Dec 6, 2021 4:17:42 GMT 8
Pros enter for free and have to do so a month out. I personally struggle to decide a few days out which crit I plan racing at the moment. Or which parkrun I’ll go too. Are park runs allowed in again in your plague ridden state? Yep. Nothing is banned anymore. Everything is open and at full capacity. unlike your locked up state. we can leave and go home without living in fear that we can’t return. melbourne marathon this weekend. Guessing we will have more than 400 people doing it, unlike busso Ironman. its nice to be free
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2021 4:23:15 GMT 8
God you can talk sh!te BB. Wurf didn't even finish the bike in Florida: the IM timing confused his chip with another athlete. He pulled out after vomiting his guts out at 70km.So that 4.04 split didn’t even belong to him. He knows he cant win against these guys (and not just the Norwegians either) unless he’s done a 100% preparation. As for why he rushed back to Andorra instead of doing that marathon - he explains this in his latest blog post: cameronwurf.blogspot.com/In short he was told to travel back to Europe asap because of the emergence of Omicron. Jeez you drivel sh!te Andrew (wow that was helpful), he DNF, when Lange DNF a race everyone said sure he was ill !! When Frodo said he had a sore back lots of folk said that was handy. So who knows, if he was sick why start? Who cares about his marathon we are talking about Cozumel. If he can't compete with them why do you bother talking him up every race. Now he's having fun living life as a pro, been to the Olympics, ridden and rides on the pro tour and can win IM pro races. By any standard he's had, having a great pro career. How many times have you had him winning Kona before the race started?
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Post by Peter on Dec 6, 2021 6:04:27 GMT 8
God you can talk sh!te BB. Wurf didn't even finish the bike in Florida: the IM timing confused his chip with another athlete. He pulled out after vomiting his guts out at 70km.So that 4.04 split didn’t even belong to him. He knows he cant win against these guys (and not just the Norwegians either) unless he’s done a 100% preparation. As for why he rushed back to Andorra instead of doing that marathon - he explains this in his latest blog post: cameronwurf.blogspot.com/In short he was told to travel back to Europe asap because of the emergence of Omicron. Jeez you drivel sh!te Andrew (wow that was helpful), he DNF, when Lange DNF a race everyone said sure he was ill !! When Frodo said he had a sore back lots of folk said that was handy. So who knows, if he was sick why start? Who cares about his marathon we are talking about Cozumel. If he can't compete with them why do you bother talking him up every race. Now he's having fun living life as a pro, been to the Olympics, ridden and rides on the pro tour and can win IM pro races. By any standard he's had, having a great pro career. How many times have you had him winning Kona before the race started? Wurf talks up everything because he loves the attention. That’s fairly obvious.
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Post by Peter on Dec 6, 2021 6:05:45 GMT 8
Pros enter for free and have to do so a month out.  I personally struggle to decide a few days out which crit I plan racing at the moment. Or which parkrun I’ll go too. Are park runs allowed in again in your plague ridden state? They just said on the radio they had 35000 at the MCG yesterday to celebrate the Melbourne FC win in the afl GF.
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