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Post by Peter on May 16, 2021 13:55:40 GMT 8
Interesting and I agree
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Post by roxii on May 16, 2021 14:14:01 GMT 8
Yeah I agree. Once everyone thats wants it is vaccinated then based on the current information if it is proven to be no worse than the seasonal flu then yeah we should open up.
On another note, NSW announced they were opening up there mass vaccinations centre to expressions of interest for 40-50 year olds last week. My Mrs put her name in and is getting her Pfizer tomorrow. Second shot is only three weeks after too. So basically there is no excuse in NSW for anyone over 40 to not be lining up.
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Post by Peter on May 16, 2021 15:48:05 GMT 8
People will find excuses.
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Post by Ironnerd on May 17, 2021 11:49:11 GMT 8
From the ABC website:
Yesterday, Prime Minister Scott Morrison said the cricket players and officials were not given any special dispensation.
"They are happy for them to come in over the cap. That is something we insisted upon and they were to agree with that," Mr Morrison said.
So the cricket players were not given special consideration yet they were allowed to return "over the cap" and not have to wait for a quarantine spot like everyone else.
Sounds like special dispensation to me.
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Post by Peter on May 18, 2021 9:01:49 GMT 8
So glady will decide when the international borders open. Not scomo.
Premier Gladys Berejiklian wants this winter to be the last spent in isolation, saying more than 5 million NSW residents need to be fully vaccinated before the state government will consider reopening international borders and warning people aged over 50 that delaying immunisation is not a safe strategy.
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Post by kenkong on May 18, 2021 10:11:24 GMT 8
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Post by Peter on May 18, 2021 12:17:30 GMT 8
I think we all know it wasnt naturally occuring.
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Post by Ironnerd on May 18, 2021 12:56:08 GMT 8
That video needs a FB type disclaimer that the information may not be accurate. Nicholas Wade is considered controversial for his views on race and other topics. Claims that Covid escaped from from a lab have been rejected by groups such as the WHO.
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Post by roxii on May 18, 2021 13:04:27 GMT 8
That video needs a FB type disclaimer that the information may not be accurate. Nicholas Wade is considered controversial for his views on race and other topics. Claims that Covid escaped from from a lab have been rejected by groups such as the WHO. It should have a disclaimer that its Russel Brand, I just cant listen to him on anything. I couldn't even tune in long enough to see what he was on about or which side he was on. I'm sure he just does some of this stuff to hear his own voice.
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Post by Katz on May 18, 2021 13:27:25 GMT 8
1st Pfizer shot done. Next one in 3 weeks.
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Post by Peter on May 18, 2021 13:35:47 GMT 8
1st Pfizer shot done. Next one in 3 weeks. Smart. It's only a matter of time until we become Singapore or HK or tawain and have mass cases. The more with the vaccine the better it will be handled.
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Post by kenkong on May 18, 2021 13:57:54 GMT 8
That video needs a FB type disclaimer that the information may not be accurate. Nicholas Wade is considered controversial for his views on race and other topics. Claims that Covid escaped from from a lab have been rejected by groups such as the WHO. I'm not sure anything the WHO say has much merit, they havent really done such a fine job that they can be trusted, especially with their strong links to China.
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Post by FatPom on May 18, 2021 14:02:41 GMT 8
I have my 2nd Pfizer jab booked for next week.
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Post by kenkong on May 18, 2021 15:41:00 GMT 8
That video needs a FB type disclaimer that the information may not be accurate. Nicholas Wade is considered controversial for his views on race and other topics. Claims that Covid escaped from from a lab have been rejected by groups such as the WHO. It should have a disclaimer that its Russel Brand, I just cant listen to him on anything. I couldn't even tune in long enough to see what he was on about or which side he was on. I'm sure he just does some of this stuff to hear his own voice. I actually don't mind him. He is one of the rare people who can discuss a topic openly with his guests without trying to push an agenda or win a debate. He is curious and open minded
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Post by Katz on May 18, 2021 17:13:00 GMT 8
1st Pfizer shot done. Next one in 3 weeks. Smart. It's only a matter of time until we become Singapore or HK or tawain and have mass cases. The more with the vaccine the better it will be handled. It was luck rather than good management. Was at the hospital for placement today, bumped into a NUM I know who sent me off to get it. I was always keen to get it, just was having to wait to get called up.
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Post by Peter on May 19, 2021 14:17:30 GMT 8
Yesterday, Australia issued more than 90,000 doses of COVID-19 vaccine within a 24-hour period for the first time.
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Post by chris on May 19, 2021 16:18:49 GMT 8
Still 90,000 a day does not cut it to be honest But I don’t see there is a demand. Maybe it’s time to create demand and let an outbreak happen that might speed things up a little. The country needs a kick up the area to get this done.
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Post by goughy on May 19, 2021 17:03:39 GMT 8
My mates tempting fate! He gets his AZ jab tomorrow afternoon, and heads off for a weeks holiday in Cairns on the weekend.
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Post by goughy on May 19, 2021 17:05:47 GMT 8
Saw a story that a hair salon on the Goldie is refusing customers that have been vaccinated for to the unknown side effects of mRNA vaccines.
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Post by Peter on May 19, 2021 17:35:15 GMT 8
Saw a story that a hair salon on the Goldie is refusing customers that have been vaccinated for to the unknown side effects of mRNA vaccines. Free advertising
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Post by Peter on May 19, 2021 17:35:43 GMT 8
My mates tempting fate! He gets his AZ jab tomorrow afternoon, and heads off for a weeks holiday in Cairns on the weekend. Why? 5% get some side effect. Not 95%
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Post by cottoneyes on May 19, 2021 18:15:55 GMT 8
I'm currently trying to find where to get a Pfizer jab here in regional Vic. At the moment looks like either an hour drive each way, or phoning each individual GP to find out if I can get an appointment if they have Pfizer on hand. Surely the governments have had enough time to get some sort of booking system in place for this and maybe actually use it to decide where the demand for the vaccines are to get the logistics sorted?
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Post by Peter on May 19, 2021 18:52:04 GMT 8
An hours drive to get your vaccine is nothing. Most people travel an hour a day just to get to work
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Post by goughy on May 20, 2021 5:07:46 GMT 8
Pfizer is tougher when it comes to logistics, because of its specific storage needs.
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Post by goughy on May 20, 2021 5:22:15 GMT 8
Listening to the talk this morning about how to get Aussies to start moving and get vaccinated. Talking of whether we need a something similar to the 80's AIDS campaign? I don't know if that's necessary, as back then we didn't have mass and social media swamping our attention like we do now!
But I do think we have a problem with the level of urgency around vaccination being presented by our politicians, from all walks. It just kinda seems like there's no rush? Sure we've had the issue where they're not pushing AZ for uber 50's, which I think had really stalled things. But my wife is now thinking of getting it sooner rather than later (her doc asked her to wait while still recovering from her Regent illness). My mate who is under 50 and not in an early vaccine category is getting out today. I don't think the practice he's getting it from can use up what they're getting.
Why not be pushing that the longer it takes to vaccinate us, the longer till we open up? And the more chances of lockdowns and masks? And if quarantine is going to be a thing for returning travelers for a while now, why not allow vaccinated returning travelers to quarantine at home rather than expensive hotels?
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Post by roxii on May 20, 2021 5:46:57 GMT 8
The problem is the feds spent a lot of time and energy saying "No hurry, its not a race" as a way to cover up the fact they had messed up the vaccine supply and implementation. Now people are throwing this back in their face.
The Indian strains could be a problem if it gets out back here (which it eventually will Im sure) and the Aussie that died over there was only 54 I think, younger than a lot of guys at my work saying, "Im not getting the vaccine, Im not at risk!" I just don't get the weird logic or the vaccine dodgers.
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Post by goughy on May 20, 2021 6:43:40 GMT 8
I thought the first Aussie that passed away was 47.
In sure I heard them saw Taiwan is now struggling, after having a period like us with little covid there. Only 1% of population vaccinated and they changed the requirements on pilots quarantining or something, down to 3 days?? Now their having outbreaks.
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Post by Peter on May 20, 2021 7:06:28 GMT 8
The problem is the feds spent a lot of time and energy saying "No hurry, its not a race" as a way to cover up the fact they had messed up the vaccine supply and implementation. Now people are throwing this back in their face. The Indian strains could be a problem if it gets out back here (which it eventually will Im sure) and the Aussie that died over there was only 54 I think, younger than a lot of guys at my work saying, "Im not getting the vaccine, Im not at risk!" I just don't get the weird logic or the vaccine dodgers. People will regret not getting the vaccine ASAP. Its only A matter of time until a breakout. From Norman swan today We should set a fixed date for opening up internationally. That will focus everyone. Watch the queues for the vaccine. And the pressure on Fed Gov bureaucrats to just get stuff done incl reformed quarantine and creative comms that don’t look like they come from a Canberra Soviet
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Post by Ayto on May 20, 2021 8:05:18 GMT 8
On another note, NSW announced they were opening up there mass vaccinations centre to expressions of interest for 40-50 year olds last week. My Mrs put her name in and is getting her Pfizer tomorrow. Second shot is only three weeks after too. So basically there is no excuse in NSW for anyone over 40 to not be lining up. Can't say the same down here in Vic (from what I can find anyway). Only eligible to those over 50 or meet the various exemption requirements at present.
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Post by Ironnerd on May 20, 2021 10:21:16 GMT 8
Here in Mongolia we are up to 80%+ having had at least the 1st shot. To move between provinces and to enter facilities like gyms and night clubs you have to show proof of vaccination. If you are vaccinated you do not have to quarantine when arriving in the country. These type of incentives are driving the vaccination rate upwards. Vaccination is driving the Covid infection rate downwards.
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